# 2-D Kinematics Question (Simple)

1. Aug 29, 2010

### mohabitar

1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
A soccer ball is kicked with an initial horizontal velocity of 14 m/s and an initial vertical velocity of 15 m/s.

I have found the initial speed of the ball to be 20.51. That was the easy part. However, the next part is not working out for me. "What is the initial angle θ of the ball with respect to the ground?".

So I tried working backwords to find out what that angle is to the left of the right triangle. I used tanx=15/14. Why does this not work? I get 3.96 which I convert to degrees, to get 227degrees, but thats obviously wrong. Any idea as to where I can begin to solve this question?

2. Aug 29, 2010

### Staff: Mentor

Good.
That should work just fine. Are you sure you pushed the right keys on your calculator? I don't see how you got 3.96.

3. Aug 29, 2010

### mohabitar

Oh wow ok I did the calculation wrong. My calculator wasnt working so I just plugged that equation into wolframalpha to get the 227. Calculator started back up and used the inverse function to get it to work right. Thanks!

4. Aug 29, 2010

### mohabitar

Ok now Im stuck at part two. "What is the maximum height the ball goes above the ground?".

The integral of velocity gives me position. That would be great if I could graph it, but I dont have any values for t. I tried finding the total horizontal displacement by using cos46.97=x/20.51 to give me the value of the Adjacent side in the triangle, then multiply by 2 to get full displacement, so thats 27.98. Set that equal to horizontal velocity to solve for t, get 2. Use t=2 in the vertical displacement equation to find total, to get 10.4 meters. That was the wrong answer however. Something seemed wrong about this method I did anyway. How can I go about finding t? Or even horizontal displacement?

5. Aug 29, 2010

### Staff: Mentor

You would find it using the appropriate kinematic formula for accelerated motion. The key is to realize that the vertical and horizontal motions can be analyzed separately. The vertical motion is subject to the acceleration of gravity; the horizontal motion is not.

That just gives you the horizontal component of the initial velocity--which you knew to begin with. Luckily, you can forget about the horizontal motion if all you want to know is the maximum vertical height.

What kinematic relationships have you studied? (Here's a short list: https://www.physicsforums.com/showpost.php?p=905663&postcount=2")

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6. Aug 29, 2010

### mohabitar

Havent really studied anything. Class just started, Mechanical Physics. I have never taken a physics class before, only Calc 1.

So which formula would I use? Velocity and Displacement? Dont really understand the format of the formula, how would I use it, if thats the one I should be using?

7. Aug 29, 2010

### Staff: Mentor

Your text must have a section on kinematics and projectile motion. Better look it over! (More references: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/mot.html#mot1")

That would be the easiest thing to do, but there are several ways to go.
Just look at your book's examples and give it a shot.

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