2 Electric Charge Particles w/ acceleration?

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The problem involves two equally charged particles that are released from rest and experience different accelerations. The context is centered on electric forces and motion, specifically relating to Newton's laws and Coulomb's law.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss using Newton's second law to find forces acting on the particles and apply Coulomb's law to relate these forces to the charges. There is uncertainty about whether to consider the net force on the system or individual particles, and questions arise regarding the correct approach to find the mass of the second particle.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing their calculations and seeking confirmation on their approaches. Some guidance has been provided regarding the assumptions that can be made about the system, and there is an ongoing exploration of how to correctly apply the laws of motion to the problem.

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Participants note the absence of additional information that could influence the problem, such as gravitational effects, which are typically considered negligible in this context.

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Hi all, I am having trouble on where to start w/ this problem:


Two equally charged particles, held 3.0 10-3 m apart, are released from rest. The initial acceleration of the first particle is observed to be 7.0 m/s2 and that of the second to be 10.0 m/s2. The mass of the first particle is 6.3 10-7 kg.
(a) What is the mass of the second particle?
_____kg
(b) What is the magnitude of the charge of each particle?
_____C
 
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Hint:
Use Newton's second and third laws, if you don't know them look them up in your book.
come back if you get stuck

-MS
 
Thanks math student. Ok this is what i got so far, I'm not sure if I am approaching it correctly.

I used F=ma for the first particle.

F = (6.3 x 10 ^-7)(7.0 m/s^2)


I got F = 4.41 x 10^-6 N





So, using Coulomb's Law I set this F


F = k (q^2/(3.0 x 10 ^ -3)^2) since both charges are the same.


I get q = 6.643 x 10 ^ -11

Is this the correct approach? I am not sure if I can use F_net = ma for the first particle because I am not sure if that is the net force on the whole system.
 
am I supposed to add the accelerations of particles 1 and 2, when i use F_net = ma?
 
looks good so far,
since they didn't give you any other info, you can assume that what they gave you makes up the whole system. The only other forces that could be acting in this scenario is gravity, but this is usually negligible so can be ignored.

Now all you need is the mass of the second particle, any ideas?
 
Cool, I just plugged in F=ma using the acc. of particle 2. Thanks MS! for the quick response!
 
CinderBlockFist said:
am I supposed to add the accelerations of particles 1 and 2, when i use F_net = ma?
No... Newton's second law is used for analyizing the motion of one body.
 
but that doesn't get you the right answer
 

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