2 (simple) Improper Integrals I'm stuck with

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Hi everyone

Here are two improper integrals and I have to find the values of [itex]p[/itex] for which they are convergent

1. [tex] \int_{0}^{\infty} \frac{1-e^{-x}}{x^{p}}dx[/tex]

2. [tex] \int_{0}^{\infty} \frac{t^{p-1}}{1+t} dt[/tex]

As I do not know the answers and am somewhat stuck with the reasoning, I would be grateful if someone could check these for me and let me know the correct answers

First Problem

[tex]\int_{0}^{\infty} \frac{1-e^{-x}}{x^{p}}dx = I_{1} + I_{2}[/tex]

where

[tex]I_{1} = \int_{0}^{1} \frac{1-e^{-x}}{x^{p}}dx[/tex]
[tex]I_{2} = \int_{1}^{\infty} \frac{1-e^{-x}}{x^{p}}dx[/tex]

Now,

[tex]\frac{1-e^{-x}}{x^{p}} \leq \frac{x}{x^{p}} = \frac{1}{x^{p-1}}[/tex]

So by comparison test (or limit comparison test) [itex]I_{1}[/itex] converges for [itex]2-p > 0[/itex] or [itex]p < 2[/itex].

Similarly, [itex]I_{2}[/itex] converges for [itex]p > 1[/itex]. Putting these together, the original integral converges for [itex]1 < p < 2[/itex]. Is this correct?

Second Problem

[tex] \int_{0}^{\infty} \frac{t^{p-1}}{1+t} dt = I_{1} + I_{2}[/tex]

where

[tex]I_{1} = \int_{0}^{1} \frac{t^{p-1}}{1+t} dt[/tex]
[tex]I_{2} = \int_{1}^{\infty} \frac{t^{p-1}}{1+t} dt[/tex]

Since,

[tex]\frac{t^{p-1}}{1+t} \leq t^{p-1}[/tex]

by comparison test, we can see that [itex]I_{1}[/itex] will converge for [itex]p > 0[/itex]. But this reasoning applied to [itex]I_{2}[/itex] yields a wrong answer. Whats going wrong here?

I think the correct answer to second problem is [itex]0 < p < 1[/itex].
 
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1. This is correctFor 2 how did you conclude that it [tex]I_{1}[/tex] will converge for [tex]p > 0[/tex]? Use the limit comparison test.
 
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Thanks :smile:...please...could you also have a look at the second one.
 
courtrigrad said:
For 2 how did you conclude that it [tex]I_{1}[/tex] will converge for [tex]p > 0[/tex]? Use the limit comparison test.

My question then is two-fold.

First if I compare with [itex]t^{p-1}[/itex] then

[tex]\lim_{t \rightarrow 0}}\left(\frac{t^{p-1}}{1+t}\right)\left(\frac{1}{t^{p-1}}\right) = 1[/tex]

So the integral converges if [itex]\int_{0}^{1}t^{p-1}dt[/itex] converges, i.e. for [itex]p > 0[/itex]. (I think something's going wrong here...can you suggest a more general method? I think that by comparing with a power of p, I am forcing only that solution for which the right hand integral is convergent, which depends on p!)
 
courtrigrad said:
[tex]\frac{1}{t^{1-p}}[/tex] converges when [tex]p < 0[/tex]

This is for [itex]1 < t < \infty[/itex]. What about the first integral?
 
it converges for [tex]p>0[/tex]. so the whole integral diverges because [tex]p < 0[/tex] and [tex]p > 0[/tex] can't both be true.
 
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No, it actually converges:

Suppose I take p = 0.5, then the integral is simply,

[tex]\int_{0}^{\infty} \frac{1}{\sqrt{x}(1+x)}dx = \int_{0}^{\infty} \frac{2}{(1+t^{2})}dt[/tex]

which converges to [itex]\pi[/itex].
 
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indeed, you are correct, it converges for [tex]0<p<1[/tex]. I used the same argument as in problem 1.

you have to set [tex]1-p < 1[/tex] for [tex]I_{1}[/tex], and [tex]1-p > 0[/tex] for [tex]I_{2}[/tex]