Calc 2 simple integration i'm stuck on

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The problem involves evaluating the integral \(\int \frac{(1+\ln x)^2}{x}\,dx\) using substitution methods. The subject area is calculus, specifically integration techniques.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to solve the integral using the substitution \(u = 1 + \ln(x)\) and expresses concern about a potential error in their solution. Some participants suggest trying a different substitution, \(u = \ln(x)\), and question the original poster's reasoning regarding the correctness of their answer. There is also a suggestion to expand the expression \((1 + \ln(x))^3\) to compare forms.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different substitution methods and questioning the assumptions made by the original poster. There is an acknowledgment of the correctness of the original solution, but the focus remains on the differences in expression forms and the implications of constants of integration.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the nuances of integration and the presentation of results, noting that different forms of the same solution may arise. The discussion reflects a learning environment where assumptions and interpretations are being critically examined.

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My first post let's see if i did this typing right, if not please forgive me...

Homework Statement



\int \frac{(1+ln x)^2}{x}\,dx

Homework Equations



Trying to attack it by using substitution..

The Attempt at a Solution



Using...
u = 1 + ln(x) , du = 1/x

<br /> \begin{align}<br /> \int \frac{(1+ln x)^2}{x}\,dx \\<br /> &amp;= \int (u)^2\,du \\<br /> &amp;= \frac{u^3}{3} + C \\<br /> &amp;= \frac{(1+ln x)^3}{3} + C \\<br /> \end{align}<br />

Where did I go wrong?
 
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What happens if you instead let u = lnx ? Work it out and see what happens. Does the result look more like the answer in your textbook ?

Also, what makes you think your first answer is wrong ? Try expanding (1 + lnx)^3 in your first answer What does the result look like ? Does it look like the answer in the textbook or the answer your instructor provided ?
 
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Thank you skins.
 
marc017 said:
My first post let's see if i did this typing right, if not please forgive me...

Homework Statement


\int \frac{(1+ln x)^2}{x}\,dx

Homework Equations



Trying to attack it by using substitution..

The Attempt at a Solution



Using...

u = 1 + ln(x) , du = 1/x
<br /> \begin{align}<br /> \int \frac{(1+ln x)^2}{x}\,dx \\<br /> &amp;= \int (u)^2\,du \\<br /> &amp;= \frac{u^3}{3} + C \\<br /> &amp;= \frac{(1+ln x)^3}{3} + C \\<br /> \end{align}<br />Where did I go wrong?
It looks good to me.

To check it, take the derivative with respect to x.

Also, as skins has suggested, expand ##\ (1+\ln(x))^3\ .##

Don't forget the constant of integration that is in one solution may not match constant of integration in another solution. In particular, if C is a constant, then C + 1 is also a constant.
 
marc017 said:
Thank you skins.

Thank you, you're welcome. As it turned out your answer was correct all along, It was just that the form of your final answer was probably different than what showed in your textbook or on the blackboard. But it was still correct nonetheless.
 

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