MHB 244.14.4.8 Describe the given region in polar coordinates

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The discussion revolves around converting the equation of a circle, given in rectangular coordinates as x² + y² = 2y, into polar coordinates. The polar form derived is r = 2sin(θ), which represents a full circle, but the condition y ≥ 0 restricts it to the upper half, effectively creating a semicircle. Participants express confusion regarding the distinction between a full circle and a semicircle, emphasizing that additional restrictions on x or y are necessary to define a semicircle explicitly. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the implications of coordinate transformations and restrictions in defining regions. Overall, the discussion clarifies how to interpret the given conditions for the region in polar coordinates.
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$\tiny{up(alt) 244.14.4.8}\\$
$\textsf{Describe the given region in polar coordinates}\\$
$\textit{a. Find the region enclosed by the semicircle}$
\begin{align*}\displaystyle
x^2+y^2&=2y\\
y &\ge 0\\
\color{red}{r^2}&=\color{red}{2 \, r\sin\theta}\\
\color{red}{r}&=\color{red}{2\sin\theta}
\end{align*}

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ok
red is mine
but I thot this would be a semicircle when ploted
I think the polor equations is correct
 

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We are given in rectangular coordinates:

$$x^2+y^2=2y$$

If we put this into standard circle form, we have:

$$x^2+y^2-2y=0$$

$$x^2+y^2-2y+1=1$$

$$x^2+(y-1)^2=1$$
 
OK but isn't that still a circle and not a semicircle?

also,

standard circle form, isn't polar form?
 
karush said:
OK but isn't that still a circle and not a semicircle?

Yes, now if you had been given another restriction, such as (but not necessarily limited to):

  • $$x\ge0$$
  • $$x\le0$$
  • $$y\ge1$$
  • $$y\le1$$

Then, you would have a semi-circle.

karush said:
also,

standard circle form, isn't polar form?

I was referring to standard rectangular form:

$$(x-h)^2+(y-k)^2=r^2$$
 
OK I think I am confused on this

The whole circle as given is $y \ge 0$

how do you get a semicircle from this?

if the center were $(0,0)$ then I could see that:confused:
 
karush said:
OK I think I am confused on this

The whole circle as given is $y \ge 0$

how do you get a semicircle from this?

if the center were $(0,0)$ then I could see that:confused:

Well, we could write:

$$y=1\pm\sqrt{1-x^2}$$

Now, we must have:

$$-1\le\pm\sqrt{1-x^2}\le1$$

Hence:

$$0\le1\pm\sqrt{1-x^2}\le2$$

Or:

$$0\le y\le2$$

And so stating $0\le y$ would seem to be redundant.
 
OK I see,

appreciate the help a lot...

started calc 4 but already worried!
 

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