2D electric field distribution in electrolyte solution

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The discussion revolves around determining the electric field distribution from a planar electrode in an electrolyte solution, specifically considering parameters such as applied potential, ionic strength, and dielectric constant. The participants explore the effects of the Stern layer and the diffuse layer on the electric field distribution, with a focus on different electrode geometries.

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  • One participant seeks to determine the electric field distribution from a planar electrode, mentioning the need to account for the potential drop across the Stern layer and the exponential decay of potential in the diffuse layer.
  • Another participant suggests looking for physics models for the electric field in vacuum, referencing the Poisson equation, but expresses uncertainty about the setup involving a single electrode and the importance of the counter electrode's geometry.
  • The original poster clarifies that the potential is applied between working and counter electrodes and emphasizes the need to consider field screening due to the electric double layer.
  • The original poster lists assumptions, including the potential decaying to zero in the bulk solution and ignoring solution resistance effects.
  • A later reply provides a reference to the Poisson-Boltzmann equation as a relevant equation for the problem.

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Participants express differing views on the complexity of the problem, with some focusing on the physics aspects while others highlight the chemical considerations. There is no consensus on a straightforward approach or solution to the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge limitations such as the assumptions made about potential decay and the neglect of solution resistance, which may affect the accuracy of the electric field distribution model.

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How can I determine the electric field distribution in an electrolyte solution when applying a given potential to electrodes?
Hi there,

How can I determine the electric field distribution from a planar electrode? The known parameters are potential applied to the electrode, ionic strength and dielectric constant of the medium. (E.g. for the most simple case 0.5 mM NaCl in water)

I'm having difficulty finding a straightforward explanation to do this. I'd want to account for the potential drop across the Stern layer and the exponential decay of potential in the diffuse layer to get a complete picture of electric field distribution. BC is potential --> 0 as x --> infinity.

One case would be for an infinite planar electrode, another would be for a small 100nm planar electrode in a cavity.
 
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This is more of a physics problem. Sure, chemistry will add its own complications, as the medium is not homogeneous and can change in the electric field, but as the first approximation I would look for physics models for the electric field in vacuum, something around the Poisson equation if memory serves me well (I can be terribly wrong here, haven't visited this territory in ages).

I have problems understanding your setup though, you can't apply potential using a single electrode, and the presence and location of the counter electrode (geometry of the system) is probably crucial element of the system.
 
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Thanks Borek!

We would apply the potential between the working and counter electrodes.

The problem also needs to account for field screening due to the presence of the electric double layer. (Electric field distribution in vacuum is much more straightforward!)

I would also make a few assumptions :

- The potential decays to 0 in the bulk solution such that we treat the working electrode independently

- we ignore iR drop, or any other effects of solution resistance

I think this should be a straightforward problem, but I’m having a hard time finding a simple expression for electric field distribution taking into account the stern and diffuse layers of the EDL (or figuring out how best to approach this). Then how to approach the problem different electrode geometries or surface areas.

Hope this makes sense,
Cheers!
 

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