2nd law of rotation, merry go round

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a problem involving the rotational dynamics of a uniform disk, specifically a merry-go-round setup. The disk has defined dimensions and mass, and the problem involves calculating the magnitude of a force based on given conditions of angular velocity and applied forces.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of torque and angular acceleration, with attempts to relate linear and rotational dynamics. Questions arise regarding the correct formula for rotational inertia and its implications for the problem.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of the correct approach to find the rotational inertia of the disk, with some participants suggesting different formulas. Guidance has been offered regarding the need to verify calculations and the importance of using established formulas rather than guessing.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the appropriate formula for rotational inertia, with references to different potential equations. There is also mention of external resources being consulted for clarification.

Ready2GoXtr
Messages
74
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


http://ready2goxtr.googlepages.com/problem1052.jpg

A uniform disk that can rotate around its center like a merry-go-round. The disk has a radius of 2.00 cm and a mass of 20.0 grams and is initially at rest. Starting at time t = 0 two forces are to be applied tangentially to the rim as indicated, so at time t = 1.25s the disk has an angular velocity of 250rad/s coutnerclockwise. Force F1 has a magnitude of .100 N. What is the magnitude of F2.


Homework Equations


T(net) = I[tex]\alpha[/tex]
[tex]\omega[/tex] = [tex]\alpha[/tex] t <---- Equation 2



The Attempt at a Solution


r = 2.00cm = .2m m = 20.0g = .02kg t = 1.25s [tex]\omega[/tex] = 250 rad/s

Using equation 2 I find [tex]\alpha[/tex] = 200 rad/ s^2

I did try one way converting [tex]\alpha[/tex] into a linear acceleration by multiplying it by r Then said that F1 + F2 = ma

Didnt work =(
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Ready2GoXtr said:
I did try one way converting [tex]\alpha[/tex] into a linear acceleration by multiplying it by r Then said that F1 + F2 = ma

Didnt work =(

I would try to go the other way around, convert everything to rotation terms: you know [tex]\tau_{net} = I \alpha[/tex] so [tex]F_1 r - F_2 r = I \alpha[/tex].
 
Ready2GoXtr said:
Using equation 2 I find [tex]\alpha[/tex] = 200 rad/ s^2
Good.
I did try one way converting [tex]\alpha[/tex] into a linear acceleration by multiplying it by r Then said that F1 + F2 = ma
Don't convert anything. What net torque is required to produce such an angular acceleration? (What's the rotational inertia of the disk?)
 
How do i find the rotational inertia of the disk, its uniform, so does mr^2 work?


or is it... 1/4 mr^2
 
Ready2GoXtr said:
How do i find the rotational inertia of the disk, its uniform, so does mr^2 work?


or is it... 1/4 mr^2
Don't just guess. Look it up!
 
It just gives it to me in x y and z components.
 
I think its 1/2 mr^2 in which ase I = .0004 so I (alpha) = .08


F1r - F2r = .08
F2 = -.3 N
 
Ready2GoXtr said:
I think its 1/2 mr^2 in which ase I = .0004
Correct formula, but recheck your arithmetic.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 42 ·
2
Replies
42
Views
6K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 27 ·
Replies
27
Views
6K
Replies
1
Views
3K
  • · Replies 44 ·
2
Replies
44
Views
6K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K