3-42 Where on ground (relative to position of the helicopter

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a stunt woman dropping from a helicopter. The scenario includes calculating the position on the ground where foam mats should be placed to break her fall, considering the helicopter's height and its constant velocity components. The focus is on the theoretical and mathematical aspects of projectile motion, including time of flight and horizontal displacement.

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  • One participant presents the initial conditions and attempts to set up the equations of motion, expressing uncertainty about the calculations.
  • Another participant suggests using the equations for horizontal and vertical displacement to solve for time and then calculate the horizontal distance.
  • A later post includes a diagram to illustrate the problem setup, although it encounters rendering issues.
  • Another participant derives a formula for time of flight and calculates it to be approximately 3.7 seconds, subsequently finding the horizontal displacement to be about 55.5 meters due south of the drop position.

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Participants present various approaches and calculations, but there is no consensus on the final answer or method, as some participants express uncertainty and others provide different calculations.

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The discussion includes unresolved mathematical steps and assumptions regarding the neglect of air resistance, which may affect the accuracy of the results.

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ok this is out of an old textbook and possibly already posted here so..

A movie stunt woman drops from a helicopter that is 30.0 m above the ground and moving with a constant velocity whose components are 10.0 m/s upward and 15.0 m/s horizontal and toward the south. Ignore air resistance.
[a.] Where on the ground (relative to the position of the helicopter when she drops) should the stunt woman have placed the foam mats that break her fall?

well so far... but not sure
$y=y_0+V_0 yt+.5A yt^2$
$0=30+10t[-.5(9.8)t^2]$
so $0=-4.9t^2+10t+30$

later [b.] Draw x-t, y-t, v ft, and v y-t graphs of the motion
 
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$\Delta x = v_{x_0} \cdot t$

$\Delta y = v_{y_0} \cdot t - \dfrac{1}{2}gt^2$

solve the quadratic for $t$, then calculate $\Delta x$
 
ok not sure why this doesn't render but it my understanding of the problem
\begin{tikzpicture}[xscale=.4,yscale=.2]
\draw [very thick] (-1,0) -- (20,0);
\draw [thin] (0,0) -- (0,30);
\draw [dashed][->] (0,30) -- (15,30);
\draw [dashed][->] (0,30) -- (0,40);
\draw [dashed][->] (0,30) -- (15,40);
\node
at (0,30) {30 m};
\node
at (15,30) {15 m/s};
\node [above] at (0,40) {10 m/s};
\end{tikzpicture}
at (15,30) {15 m/s};
\node [above] at (0,40) {10 m/s};
\end{tikzpicture}​
 
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$\dfrac{1}{2}gt^2 - v_{y_0} \cdot t + \Delta y = 0 \implies t = \dfrac{v_{y_0} + \sqrt{(v_{y_0})^2 - 2g\Delta y}}{g}$

for the given values, $t \approx 3.7 \, sec$

$\Delta x = v_{x_0} \cdot t \approx 55.5 \, m$ due South of the drop position.
 

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