-307.17.1 Show that S and T are both linear transformations

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The discussion revolves around demonstrating that the transformations \( S \) and \( T \) defined on \( \mathbb{R}^2 \) are linear transformations. Participants explore the necessary proofs and provide examples, while addressing specific steps and potential errors in the reasoning.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks confirmation on their approach to proving that \( S \) is a linear transformation, noting that the problem is different from the provided example.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need for clarity regarding the status of equalities in the proof, suggesting that proofs should be expressed in complete sentences.
  • Several participants confirm that the initial steps taken by the original poster are correct and follow the example provided.
  • One participant points out a correction in the notation used for the last line of the proof regarding \( S \), indicating a potential typo in the original post.
  • The original poster presents a detailed attempt to show that \( S \) preserves addition and scalar multiplication, providing specific calculations to support their claims.
  • Another participant discusses additional parts of the problem, including finding the composition \( ST \) and the matrices of \( S \) and \( T \) with respect to the standard basis.

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Participants generally agree on the correctness of the initial steps taken to demonstrate that \( S \) is a linear transformation. However, there are ongoing discussions about specific details and corrections, indicating that the discussion remains somewhat unresolved regarding the clarity and completeness of the proofs.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note potential typos and unclear notations that may affect the understanding of the proofs. The discussion also highlights the importance of clearly stating assumptions and the nature of equalities in mathematical arguments.

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ok this is a clip from my overleaf homework reviewing

just seeing if I am going in the right direction with this

their was an example to follow but it also was a very different problem

much mahalo
 

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The last two lines have two equalities. Their status is not clear. Please say for each equality if it is something you plan to prove, something you assume, or something you have proved and how (by definition, by laws of algebra, etc.).

The claim that $S$ is a linear transformation requires a proof, and a proof is not simply some collection of formulas. A proof is an argument that starts with assumptions and arrives and the desires conclusion. proofs are best expressed using text in a natural language (English) written in complete grammatical sentences.
 
Evgeny.Makarov said:
The last two lines have two equalities. Their status is not clear. Please say for each equality if it is something you plan to prove, something you assume, or something you have proved and how (by definition, by laws of algebra, etc.).

The claim that $S$ is a linear transformation requires a proof, and a proof is not simply some collection of formulas. A proof is an argument that starts with assumptions and arrives and the desires conclusion. proofs are best expressed using text in a natural language (English) written in complete grammatical sentences.
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ok here is the example I am trying to follow
 

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Yes, so far what you wrote is correct, and it follows the example.
 
Evgeny.Makarov said:
Yes, so far what you wrote is correct, and it follows the example.
Let
$S:\Bbb{R}^2\to \Bbb{R}^2$ and $T:\Bbb{R}^2 \to \Bbb{R}^2$ be transformations defined by
$\begin{bmatrix}
x\\y
\end{bmatrix}=
\begin{bmatrix}
2x+y \\
x-y
\end{bmatrix},
\quad T
\begin{bmatrix}x\\y
\end{bmatrix}=
\begin{bmatrix}x-4y\\3x
\end{bmatrix}$
Show that S and T are both linear transformations
$\begin{align*}\displaystyle
S\left(\left[\begin{array}{} x_2 \\ y_2 \end{array}\right]
+\left[\begin{array}{} x_2\\y_2\end{array}\right]\right)
&=S\left[\begin{array}{}x_1+x_2\\y_1+y_2\end{array}\right]\\
&=\left[\begin{array}{c}2(x_1+x_2)+(y_1+y_2) \\ (x_1+x_2)-(y_1+y_2) \end{array}\right]\\
&=\left[\begin{array}{c} 2x_1+2x_2\\x_1+x_2 \end{array}\right]
+\left[\begin{array}{c}y_1+y_2\\-y_1-y_2) \end{array}\right]
\end{align*}$
ok for some reason I can't see how this is going to preserve addition
or is there another way to show transformaton?
 
The last line should be

$$\begin{bmatrix}2x_1+y_1\\x_1-y_1\end{bmatrix}+\begin{bmatrix}2x_2+y_2\\x_2-y_2\end{bmatrix}$$.
 
ok here is the whole story... typo's maybe
$S:\Bbb{R}^2\to \Bbb{R}^2$ and $T:\Bbb{R}^2 \to \Bbb{R}^2$ be transformations defined by
$\begin{bmatrix}x\\y \end{bmatrix}=
\begin{bmatrix}2x+y \\x-y \end{bmatrix},
\quad T\begin{bmatrix}x\\y \end{bmatrix}=
\begin{bmatrix}x-4y\\3x \end{bmatrix}$
Show that S and T are both linear transformations
$\begin{align*}\displaystyle
S\left(\left[\begin{array}{} x_2 \\ y_2 \end{array}\right]
+\left[\begin{array}{} x_2\\y_2\end{array}\right]\right)
&=S\left[\begin{array}{}x_1+x_2\\y_1+y_2\end{array}\right]\\
&=\left[\begin{array}{c}2(x_1+x_2)+(y_1+y_2) \\ (x_1+x_2)-(y_1+y_2) \end{array}\right]\\
&=\begin{bmatrix}2x_1+y_1\\x_1-y_1\end{bmatrix}+\begin{bmatrix}2x_2+y_2\\x_2-y_2\end{bmatrix}\\
&=S \begin{bmatrix}x_1\\y_1\end{bmatrix} +S\begin{bmatrix} x_2\\y_2\end{bmatrix}\end{align*}$
S preserves addition, If c is any scalar.
$S\left(c\begin{bmatrix} x_1\\y_1\end{bmatrix}\right)
=S\begin{bmatrix} cx_2\\cy_2 \end{bmatrix}
=\begin{bmatrix} 2cx+cy \\ cx-cy \end{bmatrix}
=c\begin{bmatrix} 2x+y \\ x-y \end{bmatrix}
=cS\begin{bmatrix} x_1\\y_1\end{bmatrix}$
and consequently T preserves scalar multiplication.
 
ok (b) and (c) came with this problem, but I think I got them ok but wanted to post it.(b) Find $ST
\begin{bmatrix} x\\y
\end{bmatrix}$
$$ST\begin{bmatrix}x\\y\end{bmatrix} =S\left(T\begin{bmatrix}
x-4y\\3x
\end{bmatrix}\right)
=\left[\begin{array}{c}
2(x-4y)+3x \\ x-4y-3x
\end{array}\right]$$
and $T^2
\begin{bmatrix} x\\y
\end{bmatrix}$
$$T^2\left(\left[\begin{array}{c}
x \\ y \end{array}
\right]\right)
=T\left(T\left(\left[\begin{array}{c}
x \\ y
\end{array}\right]\right)\right)
=T\left(\left[\begin{array}{c}
x-4y\\3x
\end{array}\right]\right)
=\left[\begin{array}{c}
x-4y-4(3x) \\ 3(x-4y)
\end{array}\right]$$
(c) Find the matrices of S and T with respect to the standard basis for $\Bbb{R}^2$.
$$\displaystyle\left[S\right]_\infty^\infty
=\left[\begin{array}{cc}
2&1\\1&-1
\end{array}\right], \quad
\left[T\right]_\infty^\infty
=\left[\begin{array}{cc}
1&-4\\3&0
\end{array}\right]$$
 

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