3d printing with Polylactic acid, adhesion to print bed

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the adhesion of Polylactic Acid (PLA) to different print bed materials in 3D printing. Participants explore the reasons for varying adhesion properties between glass and acrylic surfaces, as well as potential solutions and methods for improving print bed adhesion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that PLA does not stick well to glass, causing it to drag behind the extruder, while it adheres too strongly to acrylic, making removal difficult.
  • Another participant suggests that materials with similar properties tend to attract each other, indicating that the ionic nature of glass may not be compatible with PLA, while acrylic (PMMA) has similar functional groups that may enhance adhesion.
  • It is proposed that the melting points of PLA and PMMA could lead to a welding effect, creating a stronger bond on acrylic compared to glass.
  • Several participants recommend experimenting with different print surfaces, such as 3M blue painters tape, Kapton tape, or using hairspray to improve adhesion.
  • One participant mentions using a glue stick on the print base as an effective method to enhance adhesion.
  • A suggestion is made to consider switching to a steel bed for potentially better adhesion results.
  • Another participant expresses interest in the original poster's progress with their 3D printer build.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best print bed material or method for improving PLA adhesion, with multiple competing views and suggestions presented throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants express various assumptions about material properties and adhesion mechanisms without fully resolving the underlying scientific principles or experimental outcomes.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in 3D printing, particularly those working with PLA and seeking to improve print bed adhesion techniques.

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I recently built a 3d printer that extrudes PLA or Polylactic acid for the material. When printing on a glass bed the pla drags behind the extruder because it won't stick to the glass. On the other hand printing on a sheet of acrylic the PLA sticks so well that it is difficult to remove after the print is done. Why is it that the PLA sticks better acrylic than glass even though they look the same?
 
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Materials are usually attracted to other materials with similar properties. Glass is ionic in nature so it will usually attract polar or other ionic materials. PLA and PMMA have quite similar functional groups and will probably (not a chemist) attract each other.

Yet this is not necessarily the problem here. The PLA and acrylate you have might have similar melting points which means when you print the PLA welds to the PMMA. And that is a totally different bond.
 
You have to experiment a little in order to find which method is working the best for you. Do nothing, just print. You can try printing on top of 3M blue painters tape (blue color seems to be better than the other colors available). Just a tip, avoid overlaps of tape.
You can also try to print on top of Kapton tape or use some Hairspray (extra strong versions recommended) on the print platform; this one works well with my http://www.3d2print.net/shop/product/pla-traffic-red/
 
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Something we did at my lab to alleviate that problem was like the user above me posted regarding blue painters tape, but also we would use a glue stick and rub it on the base
 
Have you tried switching to a steel bed?
 
That is super cool that you built a printer to handle PLA, how is progress coming along?
 
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