4Fun:Worst/Best Notations in Mathematics

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the notations and symbols in mathematics that participants find either annoying or interesting. It includes a variety of perspectives on confusing notations, preferences for certain symbols, and the implications of these choices in mathematical communication.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express annoyance with the use of p and q as summation indices, particularly when they are used together, suggesting that clearer conventions could improve understanding.
  • Others mention confusion over the notation for inverse functions, such as f^{-1}(x), which some initially misinterpret as the reciprocal of f(x).
  • There is a shared concern about the use of boldface to denote vectors, with some participants finding it difficult to distinguish bold from non-bold text, and suggesting alternatives like uppercase and lowercase letters.
  • Several participants critique the factorial notation, particularly the interpretation of "0!=1," and express frustration with the notation for natural logarithms (ln) as potentially misleading.
  • Some participants propose alternative notations for operations like the dot product, arguing that the current notation can be confusing due to its similarity to multiplication.
  • There are mixed feelings about the use of gothic and script letters, with some participants finding them difficult to read and identify.
  • A few participants appreciate certain notations, such as the Christoffel symbol and abstract index notation, citing their elegance and utility.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express a variety of competing views on different notations, with no consensus on which notations are best or worst. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the effectiveness and clarity of various mathematical symbols.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in notation clarity, dependence on context, and the potential for misinterpretation based on individual experiences and teaching styles.

  • #61
mathwonk said:
just keep asking,
'huh?"

thats what you are paying for.

:smile: hehe.
true that
 
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  • #62
There's another incredibly annoying thing some mathematicians do (one can see this very often in books):
They take two different things, but give them the exactly same notation (because the word begins with the same letter or because traditionally it always is n, so the author can't brake with tradition), stating that it will be clear in the context which one is meant. I hate that!
 
  • #63
Once I was explaining factorials to a friend in a chat room and I said 'do you know what is 3x2x1?' I said '3!'.

The reply was 'why are you shouting?'

It also gets pretty confusing when you put the factorial in a question: 'what is 3!?'

You end up having to use brackets around the number (3!)
 
  • #64
Personally, I don't like the \sqrt sign, because it makes it seem that exponents are something magical. Think of the things that might go through a middle school student's mind when he is asked to take raise \sqrt 3 to the power of 3! ( BTW, I mean just the number 3, not 3 factorial!).

Plus, the squareroot sign is also long and ugly.
 
  • #65
Another fact that I dislike is the use of the term "function." Sometimes, a function simply means a correspondence (a rule by which we assign each object in a set some other object(s) in some other set).

Other times it means a special TYPE of correspondence (the one which takes an object in a set and maps it to a single UNIQUE object in another set).
 
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  • #66
Swapnil said:
Another fact that I dislike is the use of the term "function." Sometimes, a function simply means a correspondence (a rule by which we assign each object in a set some other object(s) in some other set).

Other times it means a special TYPE of correspondence (the one which takes an object in a set and maps it to a single UNIQUE object in another set).

I never use it in that first sense. I use the term "relation" instead.
 
  • #67
As CRGreathouse mentioned, the use of the word "function" is not appropriate for a relation which is multi-valued. If your teachers are using the term this way, I pity them.

- Warren
 
  • #68
Swapnil said:
Another fact that I dislike is the use of the term "function." Sometimes, a function simply means a correspondence (a rule by which we assign each object in a set some other object(s) in some other set).

Other times it means a special TYPE of correspondence (the one which takes an object in a set and maps it to a single UNIQUE object in another set).
Are you talking about the use of "function" to denote partial functions?
 
  • #69
What do you mean by "partial functions"?
 
  • #70
Swapnil said:
What do you mean by "partial functions"?

Let f:A\rightarrow B be a function. Then f':A'\rightarrow B, where A\subsetneq A' and f' is equal to f on A and undefined otherwise, is a partial function from A' to B.

Essentially, it's a function that isn't defined everywhere. Division on the integers is an example, since division by 0 is undefined.
 
  • #71
chroot said:
As CRGreathouse mentioned, the use of the word "function" is not appropriate for a relation which is multi-valued.
Why is that?
 
  • #72
Swapnil said:
Why is that?
Because a "function" is defined to be SINGLE-valued.
It is a fact of life.

Also note that what we might call a "multi-valued" function, can always be considered as a single-valued function from the given domain and having as its co-domain the POWER SET of of the set containing the various function values.
 
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  • #73
CRGreathouse said:
Division on the integers is an example, since division by 0 is undefined.

And by "integers", I mean "reals".
 
  • #74
A person in my calculus class got upset and stormed out of class because she kept confusing imaginary numbers with vector measurements (use of i in both).
 
  • #75
The number 3 is pretty confusing to be honest
 
  • #76
I hate the prime notation for derivatives because, in physics, people often use variables like x and x' and this can be confusing sometimes. Although, I have to say that when used unambigiously, the prime notation for derivatives is pretty useful and often takes away the scary \frac{d}{dx} operator. :biggrin:
 
  • #77
One more thing that I realized is that the function notation e^{(.)} is very limited. I mean that when the argument in the exponent gets complicated (which happens often I think), it becomes really hard to distingush what's an exponent and what's not. I would say that \exp(.) is a far better notation in the long run.
 

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