A 8.0×10^-2 kg ice cube at 0.0 degrees C is dropped into a Styrofoam cup

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The problem involves an ice cube being dropped into a cup of water, requiring the determination of the final temperature of the system, the amount of ice remaining, and the initial temperature of the water needed to fully melt the ice. The context is thermodynamics, specifically heat transfer and phase changes.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the heat transfer equations and the assumptions made regarding the final temperature. There is a focus on the calculations for heat gained and lost, with some questioning the initial approach taken by the original poster.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the problem by suggesting to keep the final temperature as a variable in the equations. There is an acknowledgment of the original poster's confusion regarding the calculations and the need for clarification on the assumptions made.

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There is a mention of the professor's similar problem-solving steps, indicating a potential reliance on instructional methods. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their calculations compared to the professor's results.

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Homework Statement


A 8.0×10^-2 kg ice cube at 0.0 degrees C is dropped into a Styrofoam cup holding 0.35 kg of water at 12 degrees C.

A) Find the final temperature of the system. Assume the cup and the surroundings can be ignored.

B) Find the amount of ice (if any) remaining.

C) Find the initial temperature of the water that would be enough to just barely melt all of the ice.


Homework Equations


Q=m*C*deltaT
Q=m*Lfusion


The Attempt at a Solution



Qwater=m*C*deltaT = .35kg * 4186J/kg*k *12k = 17581.2J
Qiceto0celcius=0 because it's already at 0 celsius
Q1=Mice*Lfusion = (8*10^-2kg)*(33.5*10^4 J/kg) = 26,800J

17581.2 J - 26800J = -9218.8 J

Q2=(Mwater+Mice)*C*deltaT
-9218.8 J = (.35kg + .08kg)*4186 J/kg*k * deltaT
deltaT=-5 degrees celsius

This answer is wrong, but I'm not sure where I went wrong. Any help would be great :)
 
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By the way, those are the steps my professor did with a very similar problem, so I don't know how he got the right answer and I didn't...
 
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Remember you don't know the final temperature yet so you need to just work through the equations calling it T

eg eqn 1
Qwater=m*C*deltaT = .35kg * 4186J/kg*k * (T-12)k

And similarly the melted ice heats from 0 to T
 
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You started to compute the amount of heat that was released when you cooled the water to 0C , then you computed the amount of heat needed to melt the ice. The second amount was bigger.
does this mean that
a. the water now cools to -5 to release more heat to melt all the ice
b. some of the ice remains frozen.
 
I worked it through, thanks!
 

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