Find the mass and side length of unknown ice cube?

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The problem involves calculating the mass and side length of an ice cube when 650 EJ of energy is transferred to it, causing the temperature of the water to increase from -10°C to 20°C. The discussion revolves around the principles of thermodynamics, specifically the heat transfer involved in heating ice and water.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss breaking the problem into three parts: heating ice, phase change, and heating water. There is a question about the assumption that 650 EJ is applied to each part rather than the total energy for the entire process. Some participants explore the possibility of combining equations to account for the total energy transfer.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing feedback on each other's approaches. There is recognition of the need to clarify how the total energy relates to each phase of the heating process. Some participants suggest calculating the energy required for a specific mass of ice to understand the relationship with the total energy provided.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the lack of mass information and the challenge of combining equations effectively. The scale of energy involved (650 EJ) is highlighted as significant, prompting considerations about the implications of such a large energy transfer.

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Homework Statement


transfer 650 EJ (10^18 joules) into an ice cube of unknown size. the temperature of h20 increases from -10c to 20c.

Given:
1) q=mc(t2-t1)
2) for phase change q=m(F)

specific heat of ice (c)= 2.22x10^3 J.kg^-1.K-1
heat of fusion (f)= 3.33x10^5 J/kg
specific heat of water (c) = 4186 J.kg^-1.K^-1)

Homework Equations


what is the side length and mass of cube?

The Attempt at a Solution


First I would use eqn 1 for the heating of ice from (-10C to 0C): q=650EJ, c t= 10C and solve for mass?
then use second equation for phase change solid to liquid (0C) using q=650,f and also solve for mass?
use eqn 1 again and solve for m of water going from (0C to 20C) q=650EJ, c, t=20c

Then I would sum the masses and solve for volume?
 
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It's good that you see to break the problem up into 3 parts. However, in your solution you have assumed that 650 EJ are added for each part. But, 650 EJ is the total amount of heat added for the entire process of going from -10 C to 20 C.
 
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I am not given any mass information so I cannot find Q of each step. any way to combine the equations? like Q= (m)(c)(t) + (m)(f)
 
How much heat does it take to start out with 1 kg of ice at -10 C and end up with liquid water at 20 C?
 
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Thank you for the responses, I appreciate it! so I figure out how much energy it takes for 1kg of ice to go from -10c to 20c and then I can use that relationship to figure out mass with 650EJ?
 
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Thank you for the responses, I appreciate it! so I figure out how much energy it takes for 1kg of ice to go from -10c to 20c and then I can use that relationship to figure out mass with 650EJ?
Sure
 

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