A boat moving because of the wind

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a boat propelled by wind, with a focus on the forces acting on the boat and the resulting motion. The problem includes variables such as the surface area of the sail, wind velocity, and air density, and seeks to determine the boat's velocity over time.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive a differential equation based on the forces acting on the boat, questioning the complexity of solving it. Other participants inquire about the completeness of the force analysis and suggest considering additional forces like drag.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing insights into the mathematical formulation and questioning the assumptions made about the forces involved. There is a focus on transforming the derived equation into an integral form, indicating a productive exploration of the mathematical aspects.

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There is an ongoing discussion about the forces acting on the boat, particularly whether the force from the sail is the only force considered, and the implications of drag as the boat begins to move. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the time frame referred to as "long enough" in the context of the problem.

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Homework Statement


A boat has a sail that has a surface S towards the wind.
The wind blows at constant velocity u.

Also given the density of the air, p.

Find the velocity of the boat as a function of time.
What will be the velocity of the boat after a long enough time? What exactly is this "long enough" time?

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I figured I could write the forces equation, since I know that the force that the wind asserts on an object is proportional to its surface and to the velocity^2.

k is some constant,
So F = k*S*(u-v)^2 = ma

But then I get a diff. equation with v, v dot, and v^2, which I don't know how to solve.
Is there an easier way to solve this?
 
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Please post the equation you get. If you get what I get, you should find that it is easily turned into a quite straightforward integral.
 
Is the force from the sail the only force acting on the boat? Think about what happens after the boat begins to move.
 
This is the equation I get:
k*S*(u-v)^2 = ma
k*S*(u^2-2uv+v^2)= ma

How does that become a nice integral?
 
sapz said:
k*S*(u-v)^2 = ma
How does that become a nice integral?
u is constant, a = dv/dt:
k*S*dt = m(u-v)-2dv

As Steamking points out, in the real world there is also a drag related to v. But typically that is taken to be a quadratic in v also, so the equation doesn't change much.
 

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