A book on arithmetic that doesn't treat you like a baby

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the search for a comprehensive and rigorous book on arithmetic that avoids a simplistic treatment of the subject. Participants explore various recommendations and the desired characteristics of such a book, focusing on foundational concepts without delving into advanced topics or calculus.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses dissatisfaction with current arithmetic textbooks, seeking a treatise that covers fundamental topics in a rigorous and elegant manner.
  • Another participant suggests Gelfand's and Euler's algebra books for high school level, while recommending Bloch's real numbers and real analysis for a more advanced approach, though noting it may not cover all requested topics.
  • A question is raised about whether Gelfand and Euler's works include equivalent fractions, with a subsequent reply indicating that they do cover the relationship between fractions.
  • One participant mentions that Euler's work is available for free online, suggesting it as a resource.
  • Another participant proposes starting from Peano's Axioms for a rigorous foundation in mathematics, asserting that Gelfand and Euler do not begin from these axioms.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants have differing opinions on the best resources for learning arithmetic rigorously. While some recommend specific books, others question their comprehensiveness regarding the topics mentioned. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the ideal book that meets all specified criteria.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying interpretations of what constitutes a rigorous treatment of arithmetic, and there is uncertainty about whether the suggested books fully align with the original request for a focus solely on arithmetic without advanced topics.

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The state of arithmetic today is disgusting. The textbooks on it are absolutely repelling, the authors treat it like a subject that will be of concern to only babies. They don't show any love, they treat the subject like a dirty rug. It's been two years since I majored in mathematics, since then, I have been programming very wildly and would like to relearn arithmetic in a way that Leonhard Euler and Euclid would personally enjoy.

Arithmetic is actually very rigorous, there exist theorems on even the most basic of the components and it's a very beautiful topic, if you're being taught by the right author.

I seek a complete book on arithmetic, how old it may be, that deals with it in an elegant manner and covers the following topics;

And if possible...

What I am describing is a treatise on arithmetic and I do not want a book on Calculus because it covers some of the topics above in it's first few chapters. I want a book that deals with arithmetic only. And no, I don't want a number theory book. I have been suggested this many times before and the books are not at all elementary, they discuss many advanced topics and all I am asking for is the very basics, the very very basics.

The book also must:

1. Show why things are the way they are (why are they true).
2. Be succinct as possible.
3. Contain no annoying images and distractions (which are everpresent in 99% of today's textbooks on arithmetic)
4. Be lucid.
5. Contain zero fluff.

That's it! I hope such a book even exists.
 
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So on the high school level, you should look at Gelfand's Algebra book and Euler's algebra book.
If you are looking for a more advanced treatise, then you will have to start from the Peano axioms and work up from there. A good book that does this is Bloch's real numbers and real analysis. It doesn't quite cover everything you mentioned though.
 
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micromass said:
So on the high school level, you should look at Gelfand's Algebra book and Euler's algebra book.
If you are looking for a more advanced treatise, then you will have to start from the Peano axioms and work up from there. A good book that does this is Bloch's real numbers and real analysis. It doesn't quite cover everything you mentioned though.

Do Gelfand/Euler cover up all the topics I mentioned, including equivalent fractions?
 
I have no idea what you mean with equivalent fractions since it lead to exponentiation. Do you just mean ##a/b = c/d## iff ##ad = bc##. Then yes, they cover this.
 
Euler is available for free online too, so check it out
 
berkeman said:
You might also enjoy taking a step back to the more basic foundations of mathematics, for example Peano's Axioms

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peano_axioms

:smile:

In my opinion, if you're interested in doing arithmetic in a very rigorous setting, then you have no other choice but to start from the Peano axioms. Gelfand and Euler both do not start from the Peano axioms.
 
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