# Homework Help: A box slides down with initial V, force needed to stop it?

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1. Mar 29, 2017

### Hilmy atha

1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

Vo = 5m/s
W to the left = 6N
Ffriction = 2N
F to the left = W - Friction = 4 N
m = 1kg
g = 10 m/s^2

Ramp length = 10m
sin a = 3/5
cos a = 4/5
2. Relevant equations
F = ma
Vt ^2 = Vo^2 + 2as
Vt = Vo + at

3. The attempt at a solution
Outside force (1) to cancel acceleration from weight
= 4N
So now a = 0

Now we calculate how much decceleration is need to stop the initial 5m/s
Vt ^2 = Vo ^2 + 2as
0 = 25 + 20a
a = 1,25 decceleratiom from outside force (2)
F2 = m.a = 1.25 N
So F1(to cancel initail acceleration) + F2(to cancel initial velocity) = 4 + 1.25 = 5.25N

Is there something wrong? The answer is not in the options :/

Last edited: Mar 29, 2017
2. Mar 29, 2017

### Hilmy atha

Wait why didn't the image shows up? It can't show images from google drive?

3. Mar 29, 2017

### Staff: Mentor

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4. Mar 29, 2017

### TomHart

Hi. Welcome to Physics Forums.
Where did this come from? Is it part of the problem statement?

5. Mar 29, 2017

### Hilmy atha

Okay i updated it

6. Mar 29, 2017

### Staff: Mentor

Can you provide a translation of the problem statement? It's not obvious how long the force is allowed to operate on the block. Is it applied during the entire motion?

7. Mar 29, 2017

### TomHart

So you need 4 N (in addition to the 2 N friction force) to counter the down-the-slope weight component.
And you need 1.25 N to produce an up-the-slope acceleration.
4 + 1.25 = 5.25 N.
I can't find anything wrong with that. But it is early in the morning for me. :)
Possibly the problem creator had a sign error and came up with 4 - 1.25 = 2.75 (which rounds to 2.8)

In response go @gneill comment (which just came through), I assumed the force was applied for the entire 10 m of the slope.

8. Mar 29, 2017

### Hilmy atha

It is not mentioned at all. Everything i typed is basically the translation in math equations

9. Mar 29, 2017

### TomHart

I typed the words into Google translate and the relevant part of the translation was:
"so that the right thing stopping at the bottom end of the track"

10. Mar 29, 2017

### Staff: Mentor

In future please make sure that the problem has been described in English in the problem statement section. Translations of relevant material in images is fine. Note that this is a forum rule.

11. Mar 29, 2017

### Staff: Mentor

Your answer may end up closer to 5.0 N if you use a more accurate value for g.