A bullet embedded in a sliding block

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The discussion focuses on the physics problem of a bullet embedding itself in a block, analyzing two scenarios: when the block is fixed and when it is free to move. For the fixed block, the depth of penetration is calculated using the formula x = mu² / 2k, where k is the resistive force. In the case of the moving block, the correct approach involves conservation of momentum and energy, leading to the formula x = (M/2k)(M/(M+m)u)², which accounts for the kinetic energy lost during the collision.

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Homework Statement



A bullet of mass m is fired with horizontal velocity u at a block of mass M. The bullet embeds itself inside the block. The force of resistance of the block is constant.
Find the depths of penetration in the cases:
a) The block is held fixed.
b) The block is free to move on a smooth horizontal surface


Homework Equations



Conservation of momentum? Kinematic equations? Conservation of energy? I don't know.

The Attempt at a Solution



Using simple kinematics for a), with the resistive force [tex]F = -k[/tex] of the block on the bullet, I get the depth, x, as

[tex]x = \frac{mu^2}{2k}[/tex]

However, I'm having more trouble with part b)

I've tried a conservation of energy/conservation of momentum approach:

[tex]mu = (M+m)v \Rightarrow v = \frac{m}{M+m}u[/tex]

Now, the work done by the bullet on the block is [tex]Fx[/tex], which translates into [tex]\frac{1}{2}Mv^2[/tex].

[tex]Fx = \frac{1}{2}Mv^2[/tex]

[tex]kx = \frac{1}{2}Mv^2[/tex]

[tex]x = \frac{Mv^2}{2k}=\frac{M}{2k}\left(\frac{M}{M+m}u\right)^2[/tex]

However, this isn't correct, what's the proper way to do this?

Thanks
 
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Identity said:
However, I'm having more trouble with part b)

I've tried a conservation of energy/conservation of momentum approach:

[tex]mu = (M+m)v \Rightarrow v = \frac{m}{M+m}u[/tex]
This is good; v is the final speed of the 'bullet + block'.

Hint: Compare the initial and final kinetic energy of the system. (How much is 'lost'?)
 
Ah right!
[tex]Fx = \frac{1}{2}mu^2 - \frac{1}{2}(M+m)v^2[/tex]

Thanks Doc Al :)
 

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