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The discussion centers on determining the radius R of a circle centered at the origin, given a specific x-shift and the corresponding decrease in the y-intercept. The participants derive the relationship between these variables, ultimately proposing the formula R = (a² + b²) / (2a), where "a" represents the change in the y-intercept and "b" denotes the x-shift. Additionally, they explore the equation (y - 5)² + 45² = y² to analyze the geometric implications of the circle's properties. The conversation highlights the importance of visual representation in understanding the relationship between radius, shifts, and intercepts.

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A circle of radius R is centered at the origin. The y-intercept (positive) is at (0, R). As we shift the circle to the left (or right) by n on the x-axis, the y-intercept decreases. Are we able to determine the radius of the circle given a certain proportion between the x-shift and the decrease in y-intercept? Say, if x is shifted by 45, then the y-intercept decreases by 5, what is the radius?
 
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I don't know what to do about the degenerative case, but could you solve x2 + y2 = (x + n)2 + (y + m)2 given only n and m?
Edit: Maybe I do know what to do in the degenerative case- x = 0. So your example is y2 = 452 + (y - 5)2
 
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Intuitively, I'm pretty certain that if two circle's radii are different, then the decrease in y-intercept can't be the same, given the same displacement in X.
 
I don't how many solutions there are for y2 = 452 + (y - 5)2. I was just considering that the circle's center C, the graph's origin O, and the y-intercept Y form a right triangle with line CY as the hypotenuse & radius, and the radius is constant.
Edit: But consider that eventually CY = CO...
 
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Yes, I've already worked out (y - 5)^2 + 45^2 = y^2, but I wasn't sure, because a friend did it by drawing out things to scale, and got a different answer. I was afraid that my algebra or the whole concept was wrong.
 
I'm tired as hell (3am here), so I may have misread the original problem, but I think a simpler formula for the radius R (w/o having to solve for "y") is:

R=\frac{a^2+b^2}{2a}

where "a" is the change in y-intercept and "b" is the shift in the x direction.

- Kamataat
 
Kamataat, y is the radius in the formula (y - 5)^2 + 45^2 = y^2. Your formula is simplified, but equivalent.
 
Aaaaaaaaargh, I figured something was not right. Anyway, won't make the same mistake of posting when tired again.

- Kamataat
 
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Indeed, a general formula for a situation like this may very well be

(r+\Delta y)^2 + (\Delta x)^2 = r^2, \Delta x < r/2

I'm not sure I can prove it, or whether it has already been proven, or whether it's trivial.
 
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