A difficult boat and river problem

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a boat being rowed across a river with a current. The boat's speed and the river's flow are key factors in determining the path of the boat as it attempts to reach a point directly across from its starting position.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the boat's velocity relative to the ground and the water. There are attempts to derive equations in polar coordinates and clarify the conditions affecting the boat's trajectory.

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Some participants have provided guidance on formulating the velocity in polar coordinates and have shared equations that relate the boat's speed and the river's current. There is an ongoing exploration of the equations and their derivations, with some participants seeking clarification on specific steps.

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There is a question regarding the assumptions about the boat's velocity and the river's current, particularly concerning the conditions under which the boat can successfully reach its target. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the initial setup and the implications of different parameters.

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Homework Statement


A boat is rowed with constant speed u starting from a point A on
the bank of a river of width d , which flows with a constant speed
nu . The boatman always points the boat at a point O on the other
side of the bank opposite to A. Find the equation of the path
r = f (theta ) for the boat.

Homework Equations


dx/dt = v

The Attempt at a Solution


I was able to find dr/dt in terms of theta. here is my expression dr/dt= u(1-nsin(theta)). The problem is when I integrate it i have to express dt in terms of d(theta) which I cannot find.
 

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I don't understand the problem much. Is it the boat's velocity relative to the ground, or its velocity relative to the water, which always points towards the water? I guess it's the latter, because if n>1 then there is no chance that the boatman can guide the boat towards O.

Let's assume so. I think your equation is a little bit incorrect (just a little bit, most is fine). First, you should write down the formula of velocity in polar coordinates, i.e. write down \vec{v} in term of r , \theta and the unit vectors \vec{e}_r and \vec{e}_{\theta}. Then use the condition that \vec{v} is the sum of 2 velocity: u in the direction towards O and nu in the direction to the left. You should arrive at these 2 equations:

nusin\theta-u=\frac{dr}{dt}

nucos\theta=r\frac{d\theta}{dt}

From here, you can solve for r(\theta).
 

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can u explain me how u arrive at the second equation. I don't understand it
 
Can you do step 1, i.e. writing down the formula of velocity in polar coordinates?
 
oh ok I got it. I didnt think of v=r(omega). Thx...
 

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