A fun thought experiment: the science of electric superpowers

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the conceptualization of a superhero character with electricity-based powers for a comic. Participants explore the scientific plausibility of various scenarios involving the character's abilities, including the generation and control of electricity, interactions with targets, and the implications of grounding and insulation in combat situations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that shooting a lightning bolt directly at a target may be unrealistic due to the difficulty of controlling electricity and the potential for it to affect nearby objects.
  • Questions arise about the importance of grounding for both the electric human and the target, as well as the implications of making contact with the target using one or both hands.
  • There is a proposal for a device that channels the character's electricity into a directed beam, raising questions about the effectiveness of such a device and the conditions under which it would work.
  • Participants discuss the idea of using conductive wires as a weapon, questioning whether a complete circuit is necessary for the electricity to affect the target.
  • Concerns are raised about the effects of water and insulation on the character's powers, particularly in scenarios where the target is underwater or wearing insulating materials.
  • Some participants propose alternative uses of electricity, such as creating plasma balls or using electromagnetic acceleration, while others suggest the character could manipulate electricity in novel ways, like through directional ion trails.
  • There is a discussion about the origins of the electricity, with suggestions that it could be similar to electric eels, but with the need to clarify how the character generates and stores this energy.
  • Comparisons are made to existing comic book characters with similar powers, noting variations in their abilities and weaknesses, such as susceptibility to water or control over electrical currents.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of ideas and hypotheses, with no clear consensus on the scientific validity of the proposed scenarios or the mechanics of the character's powers. Multiple competing views remain regarding the nature of electricity and its effects in various contexts.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the need for further detail on how the electricity is generated and controlled within the character, as well as the potential effects of environmental factors like water and insulation on the character's abilities.

Who May Find This Useful

Writers and artists interested in developing superhero narratives with scientifically inspired powers, as well as those exploring the intersection of science and fiction in character design.

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Context: I'm an artist working with a writer on a superhero comic. One of the characters we were thinking of adding is a person with electricity powers. However, the writer wants the electricity powers to be somewhat more "realistic" (at least, aside from the whole electric super-powered human thing).

I've taken a year of physics, but electricity was always my weakest subject so of course it is coming back to bite me in the ass now. I do understand nuclear physics/chem (electrons, charge, photons, etc) but thinking about it on a larger scale is difficult.

So, here is a very rough schematic of a bunch of situations that could happen while this character is fighting:

http://i.imgur.com/g2MkCeG.png

For situation 1, the writer thinks shooting a lightning bolt straight to the target is unrealistic, and that if a human were to have such superpowers it would be difficult to control where the electricity will go, and it would just kind of blast out and hit anyone/anything nearby with the least resistance. Does that seem right?

Situation 2-5, the electric human makes direct contact with the target. Does it matter if the target is grounded or not? Does it matter if the electric human is grounded or not? Does it matter if he's only touching the target with one hand?

Situation 6-9. We were thinking that instead of shooting electricity directly out of his body, he holds onto some gun-shaped device that can absorb his electricity, channel it through and come out like an electrolaser or plasma beam or something. So the gun is useless by itself, and if a regular human holds the gun, nothing comes out. Does this seem plausable (or at least, not horribly *wrong*)? If so, same questions apply--are there situations where the target is invulnerable to these attacks (floating or jumping in the air, does it matter if they're wearing metal armor or something?)

Situation 10-11, he could throw conductive wires like a lasso. But if the lasso doesn't penetrate the target (like a taser) does it not matter? If there are two ends of the rope on the target, or if the rope is made of 2 wires braided together, would that make a complete circuit through the target? (kind of a silly way to fight, but whatever)

Some other situations that I've thought about (but was too lazy to add to the schematic image): How does the situation change if the target is underwater (assuming it's not 100% pure water)? If they're in space? The target is wearing an insulating armor (rubber boots or something?)
 
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1. Look at vids of tesla coils. But also look up ball lighting. Maybe plasma pulses... your main problem here is setting the power level.
2-5. Yes to everything... but depends how the superpower works. The main science you want to think about is where the electricity comes from... so this bit needs detail.
You also want to look up the effects of electric shock.
6-9. A pointy object will give more direction to the bolt ... also look at how lightning works.
In principle your superperson could power electrical devices charge capacitors etc.
10-11 you only need electrical contact... again, think mainly where does the electricity come from and where does it go.
Note: tasers have two wires... wires have to be insulated from each other so the current passes through the target to get from one wire to the other.

Under water... water = ground. Big shocks may still have an effect... look at lightning striking the sea.
In space... you need air for lightning. You can spray charged particles or maybe make an ion drive.
For most purposes insulation is good protection... does not help with lightning though.
Standing near a grounded conductor (re lightning rod) could also offer protection.
 
It is very difficult to shock an insulated person without two points of contact. Say a person some distance away standing on top of a car which is insulated by its tires.
Or a person right next to you standing on thick glass. In order to kill someone, current needs to pass through their body. They can be charged to a high voltage with no effect if there is no conduction of current from their body.

He could use his electrical powers to send high current through his coiled fingers in order to electromagnetically accelerate a projectile. Or create plasma balls (maybe --- not something I can explain how to do).

He could radiate high intensity microwaves which he focuses with his parabolic abs and then cooks his opponent.

Your best bet is to just give him the power to aim his lightning through directional ion trails that unexplainably radiate straight from his pointed finger allowing him to discharge a lightning bolt high energy enough to jump any insulating gap (like the car tires).

BTW, there is a science fiction writers forum here. You can draw from a wider audience.
 
Simon Bridge said:
2-5. Yes to everything... but depends how the superpower works. The main science you want to think about is where the electricity comes from... so this bit needs detail.
You also want to look up the effects of electric shock.

Could you expand on what you mean by "where the electricity comes from"? Do you mean, we need to establish how electricity is being transferred or created in the superhero's body? The writer and I hadn't discussed it much but I was imagining it a little like an electric eel's electric organs, probably located on his hands, but also more powerful than an actual electric eel. But this part is most open to change.

meBigGuy said:
He could use his electrical powers to send high current through his coiled fingers in order to electromagnetically accelerate a projectile. Or create plasma balls (maybe --- not something I can explain how to do).

That is a pretty cool idea! So it would be like a coil gun, but using his fingers instead of wire?

meBigGuy said:
Your best bet is to just give him the power to aim his lightning through directional ion trails that unexplainably radiate straight from his pointed finger allowing him to discharge a lightning bolt high energy enough to jump any insulating gap (like the car tires).

Hmm, would the made-up funneling gun depicted in situation 6 serve as a way to achieve that?
 
choopie said:
Could you expand on what you mean by "where the electricity comes from"? Do you mean, we need to establish how electricity is being transferred or created in the superhero's body? The writer and I hadn't discussed it much but I was imagining it a little like an electric eel's electric organs, probably located on his hands, but also more powerful than an actual electric eel. But this part is most open to change.
... well, that, and where the energy comes from.
Eels don't get their electricity for free.
 
The two main comic companies, DC & Marvel each have a plethora of characters with similar powers, especially those with many various electrically based abilities.

Some can generate and send only a DC type charge, and some with AC abilities. Either have been able to cast directed lightning strikes, while others are only able to produce random bursts. For some, water is an instant kryptonite, while others have enough control of their abilities to avoid "shorting out".

A big thing to keep in mind is: Who's he going to interact with? Is it going to be against a DareDevil type character? Or a Mister Fantastic? Or a Hulk? Or a Magneto?
And then, you have to figure who you want to win in those encounters. After that, you need a good way to explain HOW? Because going up against a Magneto would be quite interesting, seeing as how they each would have control of aspects of the electromagnetic spectrum in their powers.
 

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