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The discussion revolves around formulating an equation for the velocity of an object released from a high altitude above the Earth, specifically considering the relationship between acceleration and displacement in a gravitational context. The subject area includes elements of calculus and physics, particularly gravitational dynamics.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between displacement from the Earth's surface and distance from the Earth's center, questioning the definitions and implications of these variables. There is a discussion on the formulation of a differential equation to describe the motion of the object, with references to gravitational force and integration techniques.

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The conversation includes various approaches to the problem, with some participants suggesting methods for solving the differential equation. While there is no explicit consensus, guidance has been offered regarding the formulation and integration of the equations involved.

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Participants note the importance of understanding the relationship between displacement and gravitational force, as well as the implications of the problem being framed within a calculus context. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity involved in deriving the equation.

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How would i go about writing an equation for the velocity of an object released at a high altitude above the Earth which takes into account the sqaure increase in acceleration with displacement (s^2).

I posted it here because I'm aware it's more of a calculus question than physics.
 
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Hmm, if s is your displacement from the SURFACE, then R+s will be your distance from the centre of Earth, agreed?
(R being the radius of the Earth)
The adjective is calculous by the way..
 
appreciated...

p.s. "The adjective is calculous by the way.." - :-p i know
 
Gravitational force is
[tex]\frac{-GMm}{r^2}[/tex]
where r is the distance from the center of the earth. If your s is height above the surface of the earth, M is the mass of the Earth and R is the radius of the earth, then
[tex]\frac{d^2s}{dt^2}= \frac{-GM}{(R+s)^2}[/tex]

That's for something falling straight down, not an orbit, of course.
The best way to solve that differential equation is to let v= ds/dt, then not that d2s/dt2= dv/dt= (ds/dt)(dv/ds) (chain rule) = vdv/ds
[tex]v\frac{dv}{ds}= -\frac{GM}{(R+s)^2}[/tex]
so
[tex]vdv= -\frac{GMds}{(R+s)^2}[/tex]
That should be easy to integrate.
 
damn it, i had a feeling it was going to be something that simple. Thanks a lot, you've put my mind at rest.
 
Which could also be gained with somewhat fewer contortions by multiplying the 2.order diff.ex with ds/dt, and integrate wrt. time.
 

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