A harmonic wave with a frequency and an amplitude

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The discussion revolves around the properties of a harmonic wave, specifically focusing on wave functions, maximum speed, and maximum acceleration of points on a string. Participants are exploring the mathematical representation of wave motion and the physical implications of harmonic motion.

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  • Participants are questioning which wave function is appropriate for describing the harmonic wave, considering both mathematical correctness and physical interpretation. There are inquiries about how to compute maximum speed and acceleration, with some participants expressing confusion about these concepts.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the necessity of a wave function being dependent on both position and time. Others have noted the need for foundational understanding of velocity and acceleration, indicating a mix of interpretations and levels of understanding among participants.

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There are indications that some participants may lack foundational knowledge in physics, which could be affecting their ability to engage with the problem effectively. The original poster has referenced specific values for frequency, amplitude, and wave speed, but there is a general uncertainty about how to apply these in the context of the homework questions.

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Homework Statement
A harmonic wave with a frequency of 80Hz and an amplitude of 0.025m travels along a string to the right with a speed of 12m/s.
a) Write a suitable wave function for this wave.
b) Find the maximum speed of a point on the string.
c) Find the maximum acceleration of a point on the string.
Relevant Equations
y = f(x) = ASin(2πft + ϕ)

y(x,t)−y0=Asin(2πft±2πx/λ+ϕ)
For part (a), which generic function would be used? either y = f(x) = ASin(2πft + ϕ) or y(x,t)−y0=Asin(2πft±2πx/λ+ϕ) ??

Furthermore how to find out max. speed & max. acceleration of a point on the string?? Any directions please
 
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Ammar2211 said:
For part (a), which generic function would be used? either y = f(x) = ASin(2πft + ϕ) or y(x,t)−y0=Asin(2πft±2πx/λ+ϕ) ??

Furthermore how to find out max. speed & max. acceleration of a point on the string?? Any directions please

A wave function must be a function of both ##x## and ##t##. To say ##f(x) = \sin(2\pi f t)## doesn't make mathematical sense. Your second equation is correct.

For parts b) and c), what does the wave motion consist of in terms of the motion of the string?
 
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PeroK said:
A wave function must be a function of both ##x## and ##t##. To say ##f(x) = \sin(2\pi f t)## doesn't make mathematical sense. Your second equation is correct.

For parts b) and c), what does the wave motion consist of in terms of the motion of the string?
For part b & c, I am confused about how to compute, if you can help me I shall be thankful to you!
 
Anybody can help me to solve part b & c, and directions please...
 
Ammar2211 said:
Anybody can help me to solve part b & c, and directions please...
A wave on a string is created by each point of the string moving up and down in simple harmonic motion. You can see that by fixing ##x = x_0## and then looking at how the string at the point ##x_0## moves over time.
 
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PeroK said:
A wave on a string is created by each part of the string moving up and down in simple harmonic motion. You can see that by fixing ##x = x_0## and then looking at how the string at the point ##x_0## moves over time.
So, how to find out max. velocity & max. acceleration!
 
Ammar2211 said:
So, how to find out max. velocity & max. acceleration!

How are these defined?
 
PeroK said:
How are these defined?
A harmonic wave with a frequency of 80Hz and an amplitude of 0.025m travels along a string to the right with a speed of 12m/s.
a) Write a suitable wave function for this wave.
b) Find the maximum speed of a point on the string.
c) Find the maximum acceleration of a point on the string.

This is the problem statement, I don't know what's your point!
 
Ammar2211 said:
A harmonic wave with a frequency of 80Hz and an amplitude of 0.025m travels along a string to the right with a speed of 12m/s.
a) Write a suitable wave function for this wave.
b) Find the maximum speed of a point on the string.
c) Find the maximum acceleration of a point on the string.

This is the problem statement, I don't know what's your point!

How are velocity and acceleration defined?
 
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PeroK said:
How are velocity and acceleration defined?
I don't know, that's why I am asking here!
 
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Ammar2211 said:
I don't know, that's why I am asking here!

We can't teach you physics here, we can only help you with problems. To learn physics you need to be following a course or textbook or online lecture series or something of the sort. We would expect the source of your homwork question to have the material on which the question is based.

The subject matter here is harmonic waves and harmonic motion generally. If you really don't know what velocity and acceleration are, then you'll need to find some material on them. Without that you are not in a position to learn more advanced physics.
 
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Velocity, [itex]v[/itex], is

[itex]v = \mathrm{\frac{change \ in \ displacment}{change \ in \ time}}[/itex]

Another way to describe velocity is "rate of change of displacement."

Acceleration, [itex]a[/itex], is

[itex]a = \mathrm{\frac{change \ in \ velocity}{change \ in \ time}}[/itex]

Another way to describe acceleration is "rate of change of velocity."

You already have the point's displacement, [itex]y[/itex] as a function of time, [itex]t[/itex]. So, find the rates of change, and then determine what the maximums are.
 

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