A high-energy photon creates a pi+ pi- pair. ?

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The problem involves a high-energy photon creating a pi+ pi- pair, with a focus on determining the minimal frequency of the photon required for this process. The context is within particle physics, particularly concerning concepts of energy, momentum, and pair production.

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  • Participants discuss the implications of a single photon creating a particle-antiparticle pair, questioning the assumptions behind the process and the need for a catalyst or target. There are attempts to relate energy conservation principles to the problem, with references to relevant equations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some have suggested that the presence of other matter is necessary for pair production, while others are questioning the assumptions made in the original statement. There is no explicit consensus yet, but various productive lines of inquiry are being pursued.

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Participants note that the problem may implicitly assume conditions that are not explicitly stated, such as the requirement for a target to facilitate the pair production process. There is also mention of the need to consider momentum conservation in the context of the reaction.

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"A high-energy photon creates a pi+ pi- pair." ?

Homework Statement


"A high-energy photon creates a pi+ pi- pair. What is the minimal frequency of the photon?" (+ other side questions)

Homework Equations


E = hf
E = mc²

The Attempt at a Solution


Well superficially it looks very easy, just taking hf = 2mc² with m the mass of a pion, but... How can one photon create a pair, this is not possible. Or am I missing something?
 
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mr. vodka said:
"A high-energy photon creates a pi+ pi- pair. What is the minimal frequency of the photon?"

It can, all by itself? Where did you get this quote? Does the statement assume a catalyst--a target?

Both energy and momentum need to be conserved, in which case the target energy and momentum are changed.
 


The phrase is an exact translation from an old exam question from a course (introductory physics III [about quantum, particle, nuclear, ... physics) I'm taking... Maybe the catalyst is (very) implicit? If so, I don't see how we'd compute the minimal energy the photon has to carry...
 


It must be glazed-over. A photon will not spontaneous decay into a particle and it's antiparticle: Consider a pi+ and pi- in the center of mass frame, in vacuum. They annihilate to photon(s). To conserve momentum, there must be at least 2 photons produced. So must this be true of the reverse reaction; two or more photons must go in , to get two pions out.

However, for the level of this problem, I think you just pretend that the total energy of the pions, where E=2mc^2, is equal to E = h nu of the single output photon.
 
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This gets back to your other problem regarding pair production. It has to happen in the vicinity of other matter. Do you understand why the presence of other matter allows pair production to happen?
 

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