A non-intersecting family of circles

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The discussion revolves around proving that a family of circles derived from two non-intersecting circles does not intersect. The original poster presents two specific circles defined by their equations and seeks to understand the implications of their non-intersecting nature on a family of circles formed from them.

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  • Participants explore whether to find specific points that satisfy both circle conditions or to analyze the centers and radii as functions of a parameter k. There is also discussion about the arrangement of circles along the x-axis and the implications for intersection.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants questioning the original poster's approach and suggesting considerations regarding the arrangement of the circles and their intersections. Some guidance has been offered regarding checking for common points and the significance of circle alignment.

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What is the proof that the family of circles out of two non-intersecting circles, no two circles in that family intersect.

Say S1 = x^2 + y^2 - 8x + 7 = 0 (i.e center at (4,0) and radius = 3 )
S2 = x^2 + y^2 - 24x + 135 = 0 ( i.e center at (12,0) and radius = 3 )
Family of circles of the two above circles is S1 + k S2 = 0.
i.e x^2 + y^2 + [2* (-4 -12k)/(1+k)] x + [ (7 + 135k ) / (1+k) ] = 0 , k ∈ R

Thanks.
 
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Did you try to find x,y that satisfy the conditions for both circles? Or did you calculate the centers and radii of the circles as function of k?
 
mfb said:
Did you try to find x,y that satisfy the conditions for both circles? Or did you calculate the centers and radii of the circles as function of k?
For circles along x-axis.

S1 = x^2 + y^2 + 2g1x + c1 = 0
S2 = x^2 + y^2 + 2g2x + c2 = 0

Family of circle of the above two circle. Center and radii as function of k.
center = ( - ((g1+kg2)/(1+k)) , 0 ) and radius = √ ( [(g1+kg2)/(1+k)]^2 - [(c1+kc2)/(1+k)] )

From my example, it is.

Center = ( -[{-4(1+3k)}/(1+k)] , 0) and radius = √ ( [{-4(1+3k)}/(1+k)]^2 - [(7+135k)/(1+k)] )

How do I proove from here?
 
rajeshmarndi said:
How do I proove from here?
It is your homework problem. How would you check if these circles have a common point?

One possible approach: It helps that all their centers are aligned. What do you know about the intersections with the x-axis for the circles? How must their arrangement be like if the circles intersect?
 

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