A problem I couldn't solve -- Number of Earth rotations in a year....

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The discussion revolves around calculating the number of Earth rotations in a year from the perspective of an observer on the Sun. Participants explore the distinction between solar days and the number of rotations, noting that Earth completes approximately 365 rotations relative to the Sun in a standard year. They also consider the implications of leap years and the observer's fixed reference point, emphasizing that the Earth's rotation is influenced by its orbit around the Sun. The conversation highlights the complexity of defining "rotation" based on the observer's viewpoint, ultimately concluding that the perceived number of rotations is 365, with nuances related to angular velocity and reference frames. The topic underscores the intricacies of celestial mechanics and the importance of precise definitions in physics.
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J Hann said:
Can't one also just add the angular velocity of the Earth (w.r.t. the fixed stars) and the angular velocity
of the Earth about its axis.
What is the difference between those two quantities?

You mean the "angular velocity of the Earth [about the sun] with respect to the fixed stars", perhaps? If so then no, you would not want to add those two quantities together.
 
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  • #32
jbriggs444 said:
What is the difference between those two quantities?

You mean the "angular velocity of the Earth [about the sun] with respect to the fixed stars", perhaps? If so then no, you would not want to add those two quantities together.

That's probably not the best way to describe it, but if you let
wf = Earth's rotation relative to the fixed stars
ws = Earth's rotation relative to it's orbit around the sun
we = rotation perceived on earth
Then we + ws = wf
Probably, a better way to describe it is that relative to the fixed stars the rotation of the Earth about its axis is 366 / yr
The perceived rotation on Earth is 365 / yr.
The difference is due to the Earth in its orbit is rotating from east to west at 1 rotation /yr or, in
other words, if the Earth had no rotation about its axis, an observer on Earth would see the sun
rise once in the west and set once in the east per year effectively losing a day
from the 366 rotations about its axis per year.
Phileas Fogg learned this in his journey of "80 Days Around the World".
Since he traveled from west to east he saw the sun rise 80 times while his
companions in London only observed 79 sunrises.
(The Earth under him rotated one time from east to west during his journey)
 

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