A problem I couldn't solve -- Number of Earth rotations in a year....

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion centers on calculating the number of Earth rotations in a year as perceived by an observer from the Sun. The key conclusion is that the Earth completes approximately 365 rotations in a solar year, but this can vary slightly due to leap years and the observer's perspective. The complexity arises from distinguishing between solar days and the actual number of rotations, as the Earth also moves in its orbit around the Sun. The nuances of this problem highlight the importance of defining the observer's frame of reference when considering planetary motion.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of solar and sidereal days
  • Basic knowledge of Earth's rotation and orbit
  • Familiarity with concepts of leap years
  • Awareness of observational perspectives in astronomy
NEXT STEPS
  • Research the difference between solar days and sidereal days
  • Explore the concept of leap years and their impact on timekeeping
  • Learn about the Earth's angular velocity relative to fixed stars
  • Investigate how different observational frames affect perceived planetary motion
USEFUL FOR

Astronomy students, educators, and anyone interested in understanding planetary motion and time measurement in relation to Earth's rotation and orbit.

  • #31
J Hann said:
Can't one also just add the angular velocity of the Earth (w.r.t. the fixed stars) and the angular velocity
of the Earth about its axis.
What is the difference between those two quantities?

You mean the "angular velocity of the Earth [about the sun] with respect to the fixed stars", perhaps? If so then no, you would not want to add those two quantities together.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
  • #32
jbriggs444 said:
What is the difference between those two quantities?

You mean the "angular velocity of the Earth [about the sun] with respect to the fixed stars", perhaps? If so then no, you would not want to add those two quantities together.

That's probably not the best way to describe it, but if you let
wf = Earth's rotation relative to the fixed stars
ws = Earth's rotation relative to it's orbit around the sun
we = rotation perceived on earth
Then we + ws = wf
Probably, a better way to describe it is that relative to the fixed stars the rotation of the Earth about its axis is 366 / yr
The perceived rotation on Earth is 365 / yr.
The difference is due to the Earth in its orbit is rotating from east to west at 1 rotation /yr or, in
other words, if the Earth had no rotation about its axis, an observer on Earth would see the sun
rise once in the west and set once in the east per year effectively losing a day
from the 366 rotations about its axis per year.
Phileas Fogg learned this in his journey of "80 Days Around the World".
Since he traveled from west to east he saw the sun rise 80 times while his
companions in London only observed 79 sunrises.
(The Earth under him rotated one time from east to west during his journey)
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 21 ·
Replies
21
Views
2K
Replies
5
Views
1K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
3K
Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 17 ·
Replies
17
Views
4K
  • · Replies 16 ·
Replies
16
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
3K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K