How to find volume of irregular & porous material spong

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The discussion revolves around finding the volume of irregular and porous materials, specifically sponges. Participants explore various methods of measurement, particularly focusing on the displacement of water as a technique.

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  • Participants discuss using water displacement to measure the volume of a sponge and question whether this method accounts for airspaces within the sponge. Others inquire about alternative methods and the relevance of the question to schoolwork.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants sharing thoughts on the water displacement method and considering other potential approaches. There is a recognition that the original poster is seeking guidance for schoolwork, prompting a focus on exploring various methods rather than providing direct solutions.

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Participants note the importance of demonstrating effort in schoolwork and the constraints that prevent providing complete solutions. There is an emphasis on the need to consider the implications of airspaces in porous materials when measuring volume.

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How to find volumeof irregular and porous material like sponge?
 
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Nishaaa said:
How to find volumeof irregular and porous material like sponge?
How did Aesop's crow get to drink the water?
 
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haruspex said:
How did Aesop's crow get to drink the water?

soaking sponge in water (measured amount) and then measurmnt of voume by displacement. Is it a right way?
 
Nishaaa said:
soaking sponge in water (measured amount) and then measurmnt of voume by displacement. Is it a right way?
Sounds ok to me. One question is whether there might be any airspaces the water cannot reach, but then it is not clear whether you would want count this as part of the porous material's volume or not.
 
Nishaaa said:
soaking sponge in water (measured amount) and then measurmnt of voume by displacement. Is it a right way?
There are at least a couple other ways I can think of to do it. Is this question for your schoolwork? What other ways can you think of doing it? :smile:
 
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Gibbs dividing surface (or Gibbs surface10) is a geometrical surface chosen parallel to the interface defined in §1.1.2 and used to define the volumes of the bulk phases in applying the foregoing definition to the calculation of the extent of adsorption, and of other surface excess properties.

For flat or only slightly curved surfaces one is free to define the position of the Gibbs surface in the manner most convenient for the discussion of a particular problem. In what follows it is assumed that this freedom exists; it must be remembered, however, that for surfaces whose radii of curvature approach molecular dimensions, the definitions become ambiguous." --- from "definition of adsorbent volume," google.
 
berkeman said:
There are at least a couple other ways I can think of to do it. Is this question for your schoolwork? What other ways can you think of doing it? :smile:
What are the other ways?
 
haruspex said:
Sounds ok to me. One question is whether there might be any airspaces the water cannot reach, but then it is not clear whether you would want count this as part of the porous material's volume or not.
But it would be heavier enough so that volume can be measured by displacement method. There can be a chance that it dies not absorb water in first place. Any other method that you can suggest.
 
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Nishaaa said:
What are the other ways?
You go first.

And you did not answer my question:
berkeman said:
Is this question for your schoolwork?
 
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Yes for school
 
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berkeman said:
You go first.

And you did not answer my question:
I apologise. Yes school work
 
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When it's for schoolwork, you need to show your best efforts to solve the problem. We cannot provide solutions for you. So what other ways come to mind to find the volume?
 

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