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the formula of the apparent weight is R=mg-mrω^(2)cosθ?

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the formula of the apparent weight is R=mg-mrω^(2)cosθ?

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m is the mass of the object whose weight you want. g is the acceleration due to gravity which is 9.8 m/s

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cosine is squared

the formula of the apparent weight is R=mg-mrω^(2)cosθ?

thank you~

about 0.9999mg at the equator

[tex]m(g-r\omega^2cos^2\theta)[/tex]

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cosine is squared

about 0.9999mg at the equator

[tex]m(g-r\omega^2cos^2\theta)[/tex]

How to prove this formula?

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Well, just to nudge this along, with apologies for the fumbling, I guess I see where that comes from though am a bit uneasy.

Take the case it is at the equator. On a stationary earth force towards centre is mg. Now (at equator) on a rotating earth an object appearing stationary to someone else on the surface is actually accelerating vertically towards earth centre at rate rω^{2} . Revise that bit if not secure, necessary for planetary motion etc.

Various ways to explain physically and this is the difficult bit, but roughly... Fall with the force and you feel no force. Freefall. You are a tiny bit in freefall as per above when you are apparently standing still on earth equator so this acceleration has to be subtracted in the calc. from the total acceleration which you would experience but which, resisting it, you feel as gravity force. Those who know what I mean can maybe explain it better.

Now for the cos part, firstly away from the equator the distance from the axis of rotation is less than the earth radius r: it is not*r* but *r cos θ* so that's one cos. But that's a (pseudo) force parallel to the plane of the equator. The 'force' towards earth centre (i.e. vertical as we experience it) is just the resolved component of that so there's another *cos θ* factor, together giving you *cos*^{2}θ.

H'mm, I see then the component perpendicular to that amounts to some leftover sideways pseudo-force there, let's see (thinks er sun rises in East :uhh: so earth is going anticlockwise for us majority) that would be Northwards in N hemisphere and Southwards in S. I think it should be maximum at latitude 45° N or S

(Is this right? I don’t remember hearing about it. This North- or Southwards apparent small force should be measurable and have been measured, presumably involving satellites as quite difficult to imagine how to do by local measurement – e.g. you have to have some other criteria of 'vertical', of direction of earth c of g than direction of apparent attraction, or the direction a weight hangs.)

Take the case it is at the equator. On a stationary earth force towards centre is mg. Now (at equator) on a rotating earth an object appearing stationary to someone else on the surface is actually accelerating vertically towards earth centre at rate rω

Various ways to explain physically and this is the difficult bit, but roughly... Fall with the force and you feel no force. Freefall. You are a tiny bit in freefall as per above when you are apparently standing still on earth equator so this acceleration has to be subtracted in the calc. from the total acceleration which you would experience but which, resisting it, you feel as gravity force. Those who know what I mean can maybe explain it better.

Now for the cos part, firstly away from the equator the distance from the axis of rotation is less than the earth radius r: it is not

H'mm, I see then the component perpendicular to that amounts to some leftover sideways pseudo-force there, let's see (thinks er sun rises in East :uhh: so earth is going anticlockwise for us majority) that would be Northwards in N hemisphere and Southwards in S. I think it should be maximum at latitude 45° N or S

(Is this right? I don’t remember hearing about it. This North- or Southwards apparent small force should be measurable and have been measured, presumably involving satellites as quite difficult to imagine how to do by local measurement – e.g. you have to have some other criteria of 'vertical', of direction of earth c of g than direction of apparent attraction, or the direction a weight hangs.)

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The formula should probably be:

R=mg-mrω^(2) (cosθ)^2

where you project the centrifugal force in the direction towards the center of the earth, and the other component of the centrifugal force (tangential to earth) is too small to bother with. Of course the normal force balances everything (due to earth's oblate shape). If you insist on precision, then:

R^2=[mg-mrω^(2) (cosθ)^2]^2 + [mrω^(2) (cosθ)(sinθ)]^2

and just take the square root to get the apparent weight.

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oops, quinzio already corrected the formula.

R=mg-mrω^(2) (cosθ)^2

where you project the centrifugal force in the direction towards the center of the earth, and the other component of the centrifugal force (tangential to earth) is too small to bother with. Of course the normal force balances everything (due to earth's oblate shape). If you insist on precision, then:

R^2=[mg-mrω^(2) (cosθ)^2]^2 + [mrω^(2) (cosθ)(sinθ)]^2

and just take the square root to get the apparent weight.

edit:

oops, quinzio already corrected the formula.

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