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The discussion revolves around a calculus question regarding the relationship between the derivative of a function and the equation of a line. The original poster questions why the expression f'(x)x + b does not equal f(x), prompting exploration of the concepts of slopes and tangent lines.

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  • Participants discuss the meaning of the variable b in the context of the equation of a line and its relevance to the slopes of tangent lines for different types of functions. There is an exploration of why the formula applies to straight lines but not generally to curves.

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Participants are actively engaging with the question, seeking to clarify concepts and provide insights without reaching a definitive conclusion. Some suggest using counterexamples to illustrate points, while others emphasize the importance of understanding the underlying principles.

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"If f'(x) gives me the slope of f at some point, why doesn't f'(x)x + b = f(x)?"

I have no idea how to answer this. Can you?

How about: it is the slope of the tangent line to some point of the function, and that set of tangent lines do not share the same y-intercept b necessarily, so b is not constant.
 
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What is b? ;)

and that set of tangent lines do not share the same y-intercept b necessarily
I think this is the main point. For straight lines, the formula works (if we set b=f(0)), for other curves it does not work in general.
 
mfb said:
What is b? ;)

I think this is the main point. For straight lines, the formula works (if we set b=f(0)), for other curves it does not work in general.

Well, I believe the student was just referring to the "y = mx + b" idea they learn for general line equations. I have to say it was a great question as most calc 1 students seem to just seem to "go through the motions" and that's why I wanted to share.

Clearly, the underlying reason is what we're talking about, but I'm looking for a good way to answer the question without inducing confusion.


EDIT: Errm.. why was this moved to homework help? This is clearly not an actual inquiry nor is it a textbook style question at all.
 
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jtbell moved the thread as it is a homework question (or very similar to one).

Clearly, the underlying reason is what we're talking about, but I'm looking for a good way to answer the question without inducing confusion.
Give a counterexample?
 
I think explaining why the equation of a straight line happens to be y=mx+b would be a good point to start after that move on to the link between differentials and tangent...
 
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