A question regarding a new solution

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The discussion revolves around proving the convergence of a series and finding its limit. The original poster presents a new method and seeks validation for its correctness, particularly focusing on a specific step involving the series not dropping below a certain value.

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  • Participants discuss the validity of the original poster's method and question the assumptions made regarding the series. There are attempts to clarify the conditions under which certain inequalities hold, and some suggest alternative approaches such as proving the contrapositive.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and questioning the original poster's reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of induction and the implications of the inequalities, but no consensus has been reached on the correctness of the proposed method.

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There are indications of potential misunderstandings regarding the assumptions about the series values, and the original poster has noted a typographical error in their initial post. The discussion includes references to specific values and conditions that are under scrutiny.

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i recently posted a question about prooving a convergence of a series
and to find the limit

i have found a new way to proove
i showed it in the link

is this method ok??

the problem is in the second step
when i am trying to prove that the series doesn't go bellow 0.61

i used the splitting method
of the fraction but its inconclusive

how do i proove the second part
?

do i need to proove anything else inorder to complete the objective?

http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img8220ez9.jpg

(there is a typing miste in the link its a n+1>0.61)
 
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transgalactic said:
i recently posted a question about prooving a convergence of a series
and to find the limit

i have found a new way to proove
i showed it in the link

is this method ok??

the problem is in the second step
when i am trying to prove that the series doesn't go bellow 0.61

i used the splitting method
of the fraction but its inconclusive

how do i proove the second part
?

do i need to proove anything else inorder to complete the objective?

http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img8220ez9.jpg

(there is a typing miste in the link its a n+1>0.61)
This looks like a sequence to me!
 
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Why don't u post the original question first?
 
the original question and how i tried to solve it in the new link

on the top of the first page
 
You say, at one point, "a_k&gt; 0.61 given". Well, you aren't "given" that. And I don't see where you have proved it. But then you say "we need to prove that ak+1< 0.61" which isn't true. Are you saying that ak> 0.61 for some k? Well, ak+1 < 0.061 is never true, any way.

I think it is simpler to prove the contrapositive. Suppose that, for some k, ak+1> ak. Then
a_{k+1}= \frac{a_k+ 1}{a_k+ 2}&gt; a_k[/itex]<br /> Multiply on both sides by the positive value a_k+ 2. Then you are saying that a_k+ 1&amp;gt; a_k^2+ 2a_k so that a_k^2+ a_k-1&amp;lt; 0. That&#039;s a parabola opening upward. For what values of x is x<sup>2</sup>+ x- 1&lt; 0? Are those possible values of a<sub>k</sub>?
 
the parabula shows how the series goes

if the line after some point goes is on the negative part of the y axes
(bellow the x axes) then each next member will decrease in value

thats how i overrided the prooving
of

an+1<an inequality

you showed yourself the parula formula in the numanator
so i think it is the same.
is it ok??

now i want to proove that
its not going bellow 0.61

by the induction method

we presume that
an>0.61

and using that we proove that

an+1>0.61

as i showed in the link
i am having trouble to solve it
??
 
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Since a_0=1 then

a_{k+1}= \frac{a_k+ 1}{a_k+ 2}&gt; 0

by induction, i.e. a_k&gt;0 \,\forall\, k. Thus the limit is

l=\frac{-1+\sqrt{5}}{2}
 

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