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The discussion revolves around the concept of convergence in sequences, specifically addressing the conditions under which a sequence does not converge to a given limit. Participants explore the implications of non-convergence and the relationship between sequence elements and their proximity to a specified point.

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a sequence [itex](x_n)[/itex] does not converge to a
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infinitely many elements of [itex]\{x_n:n\in N\}[/itex] not in [itex]B(x,\epsilon)[/itex]

why the 2 sentence equaivelent?
 
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Remember: if a sequence [tex](x_n)[/tex] does converge to [tex]a[/tex] then, for any [tex]\espilon > 0[/tex] there is an integer [tex]N[/tex] such that, for all
[tex]n > N[/tex] it is true that [tex]x_n \in B(x,\epsilon)[/tex].

With this in mind, if [tex](x_n)[/tex] does not converge to [tex]a[/tex], it has to be true that there is no [tex]N[/tex] that satisfies the previous requirement. If saying [tex]x_n \in B(x, \epsilon)[/tex] from some point on is false, it has to be true that [tex]x_n \not \in B(x,\epsilon)[/tex] for infinitely many values of [tex]n[/tex].
 
statdad said:
Remember: if a sequence [tex](x_n)[/tex] does converge to [tex]a[/tex] then, for any [tex]\espilon > 0[/tex] there is an integer [tex]N[/tex] such that, for all
[tex]n > N[/tex] it is true that [tex]x_n \in B(x,\epsilon)[/tex].

With this in mind, if [tex](x_n)[/tex] does not converge to [tex]a[/tex], it has to be true that there is no [tex]N[/tex] that satisfies the previous requirement. If saying [tex]x_n \in B(x, \epsilon)[/tex] from some point on is false, it has to be true that [tex]x_n \not \in B(x,\epsilon)[/tex] for infinitely many values of [tex]n[/tex].


thx! related Question: Can [tex]B(x,\epsilon)[/tex] contains infinitely many[tex]x_n[/tex] in this case?
 
"Can contains infinitely many in this case?"

In the case of non-convergence? Sure: consider [tex](-1)^n[/tex]. It doesn't converge
to [tex]1[/tex], but there are infinitely many integers (namely the even ones) for which [tex](-1)^n \in B(1,0.1)[/tex].
 
statdad said:
"Can contains infinitely many in this case?"

In the case of non-convergence? Sure: consider [tex](-1)^n[/tex]. It doesn't converge
to [tex]1[/tex], but there are infinitely many integers (namely the even ones) for which [tex](-1)^n \in B(1,0.1)[/tex].

thx great example.
how about this case?
(x_n) converge to b.
Can a ball centered at a contains infinitely many x_n, while a is not equal to b?
 

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