A Simple(?) Differential Equation

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The problem involves a differential equation related to the motion of an object under the influence of a variable acceleration given by d²/dt² = ge^(-kt). The original poster seeks to find the distance traveled by the object over time t, starting from rest, and to analyze the behavior of the solution for small and large values of t.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to integrate the acceleration equation but questions the validity of their results when comparing initial conditions. Some participants suggest using initial conditions to determine constants of integration, while others provide corrections to the integration process.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively discussing the integration steps and the implications of initial conditions on the constants involved. There is a focus on clarifying the integration process and ensuring that the initial conditions are applied correctly. No consensus has been reached, but there are constructive suggestions being made.

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The original poster is using this problem as a substitute for a course, indicating potential constraints related to their learning resources. The problem's context involves approximations for small and large time values, which are under discussion.

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This is question 1.4 of Chapter 8 of Mary L. Boas's Mathematical Methods in the Physical Sciences, Edition 2. I'm using it as a substitute for my ordinary differential equations class since my textbook has apparently been lost somewhere in the mail.

Homework Statement


Find the distance which an object moves in time t if it starts from rest and has an acceleration d^2/dt^2 = ge^(-kt). Show that for a small t the result is approximately (x = 1/2(gt^2)) and for very large t, the velocity dx/dt is approximately constant. (This problem corresponds roughly to the motion of a parachutist.)


Homework Equations


The solution manual gives the solution as: x=k^(-1)gt + k^(-2)g(e^(-kt)-1)


The Attempt at a Solution


I integrated both sides of d^2/dt^2 = ge^(-kt) twice with respect to t, ending up with x = k^(-2)ge^(-kt) + v_0(t) + x_0.
However substituting t=0 into the equation gives x = g/(k^2) + x_0, not (1/2)gt^2, so, obviously on the wrong track.

I put the process in an attached image below since it might be easier to read that than my terrible equation formatting. Thanks!
 

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blintaro said:
This is question 1.4 of Chapter 8 of Mary L. Boas's Mathematical Methods in the Physical Sciences, Edition 2. I'm using it as a substitute for my ordinary differential equations class since my textbook has apparently been lost somewhere in the mail.

Homework Statement


Find the distance which an object moves in time t if it starts from rest and has an acceleration d^2/dt^2 = ge^(-kt). Show that for a small t the result is approximately (x = 1/2(gt^2)) and for very large t, the velocity dx/dt is approximately constant. (This problem corresponds roughly to the motion of a parachutist.)

Homework Equations


The solution manual gives the solution as: x=k^(-1)gt + k^(-2)g(e^(-kt)-1)

The Attempt at a Solution


I integrated both sides of d^2/dt^2 = ge^(-kt) twice with respect to t, ending up with x = k^(-2)ge^(-kt) + v_0(t) + x_0.
However substituting t=0 into the equation gives x = g/(k^2) + x_0, not (1/2)gt^2, so, obviously on the wrong track.

I put the process in an attached image below since it might be easier to read that than my terrible equation formatting. Thanks!

Please post your equations instead of images of them as per forum rules. Your integrations are not correct. For example, if ##x''(t) = ge^{-kt}##, then ##x'(t) = -\frac g k e^{-kt} + C##. When you put ##t=0## in both sides you do not get ##C = v_0##.
 
Here are the equations in a latex format:

##\vec a = ge^{-kt}##
##\vec v = - \frac{g}{k} e^{-kt} + c_1##
##\vec r = \frac{g}{k^2} e^{-kt} + c_1t + c_2##

Using the initial condition ##r(0) = 0##, you should get something useful.

##- \frac{g}{k^2} = c_2##

The initial condition that ##v(0) = 0## also gives you some more information.

##\frac{g}{k} = c_1##

Then:

##\vec r = \frac{g}{k^2} e^{-kt} + \frac{g}{k} t - \frac{g}{k^2}##
 
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Oh, I see! So that's how to deal with the c's that wind up after integration. Excellent, thank you very much!
 

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