A sled is being pulled accross horizontal, snow covered ground

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The problem involves a 16-kg sled being pulled across horizontal, snow-covered ground by a force of 24 N. The sled starts from rest and reaches a speed of 2.0 m/s over a distance of 8.0 m. The objective is to determine the coefficient of kinetic friction between the sled and the snow.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss calculating the sled's acceleration and normal force, with some expressing uncertainty about determining the coefficient of kinetic friction. Questions arise regarding the friction force and its relation to Newton's second law.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of the relationship between the applied force, friction force, and net force. Some participants suggest methods for calculating the friction force, while others question the assumptions made in the calculations. No consensus has been reached regarding the correct approach to finding the coefficient of friction.

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Participants are navigating the implications of using net force in their calculations and the definitions of forces involved. There is a focus on ensuring the correct interpretation of Newton's second law in the context of this problem.

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Homework Statement



A 16-kg sled is being pulled along the horizontal snow-covered
ground by a horizontal force of 24 N. Starting from rest, the sled attains
a speed of 2.0 m/s in 8.0 m. Find the coefficient of kinetic friction
between the runners of the sled and the snow.


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I have found the acceleration of the sled by using the v^2 = v0+2ax. So, 2^2 = 2(a)(8), which gives me 0.25 m/s^2. I also calculated the normal force. Since it is a horizontal plane, it would be (9.81)(16) = 156.96 N.

Not to sure how to get the μFk from here.

Thank you for your time
 
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How might you find the friction force acting on the sled? (Hint: Newton's 2nd law.)
 
smaan said:

Homework Statement



A 16-kg sled is being pulled along the horizontal snow-covered
ground by a horizontal force of 24 N. Starting from rest, the sled attains
a speed of 2.0 m/s in 8.0 m. Find the coefficient of kinetic friction
between the runners of the sled and the snow.


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I have found the acceleration of the sled by using the v^2 = v0+2ax. So, 2^2 = 2(a)(8), which gives me 0.25 m/s^2. I also calculated the normal force. Since it is a horizontal plane, it would be (9.81)(16) = 156.96 N.

Not to sure how to get the μFk from here.

Thank you for your time

If that is indeed the acceleration [I don't doubt you - I have just not checked your answer] you should know the net force, and thus how large the friction that opposes the applied 24N force.
Once you have the size of the friction force, you should be able to calculate the coefficient of friction, since you have the normal force.
 
Doc Al said:
How might you find the friction force acting on the sled? (Hint: Newton's 2nd law.)

Would the frictional force be F=ma? So would F=(16kg)(0.25m/s^2)=4N?

So then, μk=Fk/FN. So, since I found the normal force to be 156.96 N, the kinetic friction coefficient would be 4/156.96 = 0.022548?
 
smaan said:
Would the frictional force be F=ma? So would F=(16kg)(0.25m/s^2)=4N?

So then, μk=Fk/FN. So, since I found the normal force to be 156.96 N, the kinetic friction coefficient would be 4/156.96 = 0.022548?

Newtons second law, using the actual acceleration, gives you the net Force acting.
The applied Force plus the Friction Force [adding as vectors of course] give the net Force.

The answer you give here is not correct.
 
smaan said:
Would the frictional force be F=ma? So would F=(16kg)(0.25m/s^2)=4N?
No. When you use F = ma, remember that F is the net force. So it's better to write it as: ƩF = ma.

There are two horizontal forces acting: The pulling force and the friction force. Set up an equation and solve for the friction force.

So then, μk=Fk/FN. So, since I found the normal force to be 156.96 N, the kinetic friction coefficient would be 4/156.96 = 0.022548?
Once you solve for the correct friction force, then this method will give you μk.
 

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