A stone is thrown vertically upward.

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The problem involves a stone thrown vertically upward, passing two points, A and B, with specified speeds. The task is to calculate the initial speed and the maximum height above point B, utilizing kinematic equations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of kinematic equations, particularly focusing on the second equation. Questions arise regarding the representation of initial speed and position values, as well as the implications of not having time as a variable.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on using specific kinematic equations and suggested taking point A as a reference for distance. There is an ongoing exploration of how to define variables and set up the equations correctly, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the absence of time in the problem statement and express uncertainty about how to proceed with the calculations given the variables involved.

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Homework Statement



A stone is thrown vertically upward. On its way up it passes point A with speed v, and point B, 3.00 m higher than A, with speed v/2. Calculate (a) the speed v and (b) the maximum height reached by the stone above the point B.

Homework Equations



Kinematic Equations

v = v(knot) + a(t)

V^2 = v(knot)^2 + 2a (x - x(knot))

x - x(knot) = v(knot)t + 0.5a(t)^2

The Attempt at a Solution



Because I'm not given time in the problem statement, I believe I start with Kinematic eq two. If I want to find speed at point A, I don't know how to represent that as an x value. I know "a" is "-9.8" but am not given v(knot)^2. I'm left with too many variables.

Thank you.
 
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PHYSStudent098 said:
... Because I'm not given time in the problem statement, I believe I start with Kinematic eq two.

You have chosen the correct formula.

Use that formula from initial speed v to speed v/2.
 
But what is my v(knot) and x(knot)? Thank you.
 
You take point A as the zero reference for distance.
 
BTW does not v_{o} look better?
 
V^2 = v(knot)^2 + 2a (A-x(knot))?

Lost.
 
PHYSStudent098 said:

Homework Statement



A stone is thrown vertically upward. On its way up it passes point A with speed v, and point B, 3.00 m higher than A, with speed v/2. Calculate (a) the speed v and (b) the maximum height reached by the stone above the point B.

Homework Equations



Kinematic Equations

v = v(knot) + a(t)

V^2 = v(knot)^2 + 2a (x - x(knot))

x - x(knot) = v(knot)t + 0.5a(t)^2

The Attempt at a Solution



Because I'm not given time in the problem statement, I believe I start with Kinematic eq two. If I want to find speed at point A, I don't know how to represent that as an x value. I know "a" is "-9.8" but am not given v(knot)^2. I'm left with too many variables.

Thank you.
Welcome to PF!

Yes, use the second kinematic equations. Substitute all values given, write XA and xB for the positions. You know that xB=3+xA.

ehild
 
I am going to write your 'v(knot)' as v_{o}.

I repeat. Take point A as your zero reference for the distance. Hence the distance at A would have the value of 0.
 
Or follow the suggestion of ehild.
 
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Thank you.

But does that not still leave me with V^2 = v(knot)^2 + 2(-9.8)(3-A)?

Sorry.
 
  • #11
You have two equations.

If x =A v =V, given.
If x=B=3+A, v= V/2.

Show these equations.



ehild
 
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