A Tension problem with no known angle given

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The problem involves a bucket of water suspended from a pulley, with a focus on understanding the tension in the rope under different conditions. The original poster is uncertain about how to approach the problem, particularly due to the lack of an angle in the second scenario where the bucket is pulled up at a constant velocity.

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  • The original poster attempts to analyze the forces acting on the bucket, noting that both situations involve the bucket at rest and at constant velocity. They express confusion about the relevance of the angle and how to proceed with the tension calculations.

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Participants are exploring the implications of the tension in the rope, with some clarifying the relationship between the tension and the weight of the bucket. There is an ongoing examination of the forces involved, particularly regarding the number of tension forces acting on the bucket.

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The original poster mentions that they are unsure how to proceed without a known angle, which may affect their understanding of the problem setup. The discussion also reflects a misunderstanding about the number of tension forces acting on the bucket.

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here's the question:

Part a of the drawing shows a bucket of water suspended from the pulley of a well; the tension in the rope is 81.5 N. Part b shows the same bucket of water being pulled up from the well at a constant velocity. What is the tension in the rope in part b?

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http://www.webassign.net/CJ/p4-46.gif

equations: F=ma; maybe sin, cos, etc...?

i don't even know where to begin with this since the second situation has no angle given to help solve for the problem. i know that the bucket at rest and the bucket at constant velocity have a=0. i also figured that in situtation 1, since only tension and weight are acting on the bucket in the y direction, the weight equals -81.5. but i do not know where to go from there. any help is appreciated. thanks!
 
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The angle is not relevant.

In part A of the figure, the rope is attached to the bucket at both ends, so the force on the bucket in terms of the tension in the rope is what? What does that tell you about the weight of the bucket?
 
Oh! Therefore there are two strings that both have 81.5 N of tensions. I assumed 81.5 was the whole amount of tension in both strings. thank you SO much for clearing that up.
 
No, there's only one rope with tension 81.5 N. But this one rope is attached to the bucket at two points. The rope exerts a tension force at both these points. Both these forces point vertically upwards because the string is vertical there, so there is a total force of 2T pointing vertically upwards on the bucket due to the rope.
 

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