What is the tension in the rope problem?

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The problem involves two buckets of sand suspended from a rope over a pulley, with one bucket weighing 130 N and the other 65 N. The discussion focuses on determining the tension in the rope under different conditions: when the lighter bucket is held, when it is released, and when both buckets come to rest.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the tension in the rope under various scenarios, questioning the assumptions made about the forces acting on the buckets. There is an exploration of using free body diagrams and Newton's 2nd Law to analyze the situation.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on using free body diagrams and applying Newton's 2nd Law to better understand the problem. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct interpretation of forces and tension in the rope, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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Participants are working within the constraints of the problem as stated, with specific weights given for the buckets and the requirement to analyze the tension in different scenarios without providing complete solutions.

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Buckets and a Pulley Two buckets of sand hang from opposite ends of a rope that passes over an ideal pulley. One bucket is full and weighs 130 N; the other bucket is only partly filled and weighs 65 N.
a) Initially, you hold onto the lighter bucket to keep it from moving. What is the tension in the rope?
b) You release the lighter bucket and the heavier one descends. What is the tension in the rope now?
c) Eventually the heavier bucket lands and the two buckets come to rest. What is the tension in the rope now?


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a) Initially, you hold onto the lighter bucket to keep it from moving. What is the tension in the rope?
Tension is equal of the weight of the first bucket
T= 130N

b) You release the lighter bucket and the heavier one descends. What is the tension in the rope now?
Tension is equal of the weight difference between the of the first and secong buckets.
T= 130 - 65= 65N (But this answer is wrong. Could someone please explain?)

c) Eventually the heavier bucket lands and the two buckets come to rest. What is the tension in the rope now?
Tension is equal of the weight of the second bucket
T= 65N
 
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for b) have you drawn a free body diagram of the buckets in flight?
 


Yes, I did draw a free body diagram. In second situation since the heavier one descends (due to force of gravity) and the lighter one moves upwards I subtracted 65N from 130N.

Am I in right track? If not could you please explain...?

Thanks in advance
 


Unfortunately this question isn't that simple. Having drawn your free body diagrams, use Newton's 2nd Law on each bucket. What can you say about the acceleration of each bucket? Can you then solve for the tension?
 

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