A trace between a dog and a rabbit

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The problem involves a dog pursuing a rabbit, with the dog starting at a distance L due north of the rabbit, which is moving due east at a constant speed. The dog's speed is greater than that of the rabbit. The task is to analyze the motion using polar coordinates and derive the time it takes for the dog to catch the rabbit.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss resolving components of velocity vectors and the relationship between the dog's and rabbit's speeds. There are attempts to express the velocity in terms of polar coordinates and questions about the integration needed for parts b and c.

Discussion Status

Some participants have made progress on part (a) and have shared their expressions for the velocity. Others are questioning the relationships between variables and seeking clarification on how to proceed with the integration for part (c). There is an acknowledgment of the complexity involved in the integration process.

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Participants are exploring the implications of the hint provided in the problem statement and are trying to clarify the relationships between the variables involved, particularly in terms of time and angular velocity.

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Homework Statement


A dog is at a distance L due north of a rabbit. He starts to pursue the rabbit and its motion always points to the rabbit. Given that the rabbit keeps running due east with a constant speed v and the dog's speed is a constant u, where v<u. Find the time that the dog catches the rabbit according to the method stated below.

(a) Consider the rabbit as a moving origin of a polar coordinates. Let \vec{r} be the postition vector of dog relative to rabbit. Write down the velocity vectors relative to the rabbit along \vec{e_{r}} \vec{e_{θ}} respectively.

(b) Show that r=\frac{L (cot \frac{θ}{2})^\frac{u}{v}}{sinθ}

(c) Use the result of (a) and (b) to find τ, the time for the dog to catch the rabbit.
[Hint: Consider the relation τ=\int dt and dt= \frac{dθ}{dθ&#039;}]

Homework Equations


u speed of the dog
v speed of the rabbit
θ angle measure from east to the position of the dog.
L original dist. between the 2 animals

The Attempt at a Solution


For part (a), we can simply do it by resolving components.
I get \vec{v}=<u+vcosθ, vsinθ>

But for part b and c, I have no idea.
We need to integrate \vec{v} with repest to t in order to get \vec{r}, but in part a, \vec{v} depends on θ only.

Alway, I don't know where can I use the hint.
 
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athrun200 said:

The Attempt at a Solution


For part (a), we can simply do it by resolving components.
I get \vec{v}=<u+vcosθ, vsinθ>

But for part b and c, I have no idea.
We need to integrate \vec{v} with repest to t in order to get \vec{r}, but in part a, \vec{v} depends on θ only.

Alway, I don't know where can I use the hint.
Use the fact that \vec{v} = \dot{r}\vec{e}_r + r\dot{\theta}\,\vec{e}_\thetaand\frac{dr}{d\theta} = \frac{dr}{dt}\frac{dt}{d\theta}
Make sure you get the signs correct.
 
Are you talking about part b?
If yes, then what is \frac{dt}{dθ}

Is it \frac{1}{\dot{θ}}?
Then how to find \dot{θ}?
 
vela said:
Use the fact that \vec{v} = \dot{r}\vec{e}_r + r\dot{\theta}\,\vec{e}_\thetaand\frac{dr}{d\theta} = \frac{dr}{dt}\frac{dt}{d\theta}
Make sure you get the signs correct.

I finish part b now! :)
But I don't know how to integrate the monster in part c.
 

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Isn't it supposed to be sin2 θ on the bottom?

I'd try the substitution u = cot(θ/2) first.
 
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