A train sits on top of a 1% grade incline

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The problem involves a train on a 1% grade incline that accelerates uniformly until it reaches level track, with a braking force applied. Participants are exploring the dynamics of motion on an incline and the effects of forces acting on the train.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relevance of various equations of motion and conservation of energy in the context of the problem. There are questions about the mass of the train and the implications of the braking force on the calculations. Some express uncertainty about the information provided, such as the length of the incline and the time spent on it.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants raising questions about the adequacy of the given information and exploring different approaches to the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of equations of motion and conservation of energy, but no consensus has been reached on how to proceed given the missing data.

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Participants note the absence of specific details such as the mass of the train, the length of the incline, and the time spent on the incline, which are critical for solving the problem. There is also a mention of the braking force and its impact on the motion of the train.

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Homework Statement


A train sits on top of a 1% grade. It accelerates uniformly until it reaches level track. What is the velocity the the train reaches on the incline, and how far does it travel before it comes to a stop? There is a 50 N braking force applied.

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The Attempt at a Solution


Tan -1 (.01) = .57 degrees, the opposing force is 50N. Not sure what the next step is.
 
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What equations can you use, for something rolling down an incline? Do they tell you the mass of the train?
 
scottdave said:
What equations can you use, for something rolling down an incline? Do they tell you the mass of the train?

That's the exact question. I find it a strange question. Hmm
 
If there was no braking force, you could use equations of motion.
You could also use Conservation of Energy. Are you familiar with these?
 
scottdave said:
If there was no braking force, you could use equations of motion.
You could also use Conservation of Energy. Are you familiar with these?
We don't seem to be told either the length of the incline or the time spent thereon, so even if we knew the mass all we would have for the first part is the initial speed and acceleration. Not enough to find the speed at the bottom.
 
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Girn261 said:
Tan -1 (.01) = .57 degrees
It is rarely helpful to find the angle in these questions. Usually you only know and only want trig functions of the angle, and those can be converted one to another easily.
 
haruspex said:
We don't seem to be told either the length of the incline or the time spent thereon, so even if we knew the mass all we would have for the first part is the initial speed and acceleration. Not enough to find the speed at the bottom.

That's what I figured too, thanks.
 

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