A triangle's rotational kinetic energy problem

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The problem involves calculating the rotational kinetic energy of a triangle formed by three masses connected by rigid rods, rotating about an axis through its center. The masses and dimensions of the triangle are specified, along with the rotation speed.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to find the radius of rotation and uses it to calculate the moment of inertia and rotational kinetic energy. Some participants question the accuracy of the radius used and suggest reconsidering the geometric relationships in the triangle.

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Participants are actively engaging in clarifying the correct radius of rotation and its implications for the calculations. There is no explicit consensus yet, but guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the triangle's geometry.

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Participants are discussing the geometry of the triangle and the implications of using different values for the radius in the calculations. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their approach and calculations.

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Homework Statement


The three 300 g masses in the figure are connected by massless, rigid rods to form a triangle.
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What is the triangle's rotational kinetic energy if it rotates at 8.00 revolutions per s about an axis through the center?

Values given:
Mass of each ball at the corner of the triangle: 0.3 kg
Sides of Equilateral Triangle: 0.4m
It is rotating at 8.00 revolutions per second

Homework Equations


I= (m)(r[tex]^{2}[/tex]) + (m)(r[tex]^{2}[/tex]) + (m)(r[tex]^{2}[/tex])
K[tex]_{rot}[/tex]=(1/2)Iw[tex]^{2}[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



First thing i did was try to find the radius of the triangle. I cut it in half down the middle, making a right angle with a side of .2m and a hypotenuse of .4m.

(0.2[tex]^{2}[/tex]) + (height[tex]^{2}[/tex]) =(0.4[tex]^{2}[/tex])
height = 0.346

I halved the height to get the radius.

Radius: 0.173


Then i used the Equation I= (m)(r[tex]^{2}[/tex]) + (m)(r[tex]^{2}[/tex]) + (m)(r[tex]^{2}[/tex])

I = (0.3)(0.173[tex]^{2}[/tex]) + (0.3)(0.173[tex]^{2}[/tex]) + (0.3)(0.173[tex]^{2}[/tex])

I = 0.027

Then i converted 8 rev per sec into 50.24 rad per sec.

Then i used K[tex]_{rot}[/tex]=(1/2)Iw[tex]^{2}[/tex]

K[tex]_{rot}[/tex]=(1/2)(0.027)(50.24)[tex]^{2}[/tex]

K[tex]_{rot}[/tex] = 136

I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Please help.
 
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The radius of rotation isn't 0.173m. Think about it. It's the hypotenuse of a triangle, one of whose sides is 0.2m. It should be the distance from the center of the triangle to the rotating masses, not the "height".
 
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wouldn't that be .4 then? I don't think I understand what you're trying to tell me.
 
The 'r' in your formula should be the distance from the axis to the rotating masses. It isn't 0.173m nor is it 0.4m. Rethink your triangle.
 
Thank you. That was a silly place for me to make mistakes.
 

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