George Plousos said:
From what you say I understand that it is difficult to further improve the synchronization of Bob and Alice's watches. I wonder if this can be corrected by placing Bob and Alice in the middle of the distance that separates the two planets. Then they would synchronize their clocks and then return to their planets at the same speeds.
Despite these shortcomings, I think the experiment described in the original question is feasible and there would be some difference in the photographed watches. If it is necessary for Alex to return to Earth, he will have to use the same method by which he traveled to Alice to rule out acceleration from the experiment. In this case, the final question will only include the photographed watches of Bob and Alex.
I do not know if there is any range of error in the accuracy of the results determined by the parameters of the experiment, so I chose to leave open the choice of speed of Alex.
It's not a matter of lack of accuracy. It is a matter of not all inertial frames agreeing that t Bob's and Alice's clocks were ever synchronized to each other.
Imagine two other observers who, before Alice and Bob tried to sync their clocks, were already in motion with respect to Bob and Alice. Carl is moving in the Bob to Alice direction, and David in the Alice to Bob direction. Let's say that they both have a speed of 0.5c relative to Bob and Alice.
Bob sends his signal.
From Carl's frame, Both Bob and Alice are moving at 0.5c relative to him, with Alice "chasing after" Bob.
One of the key ideas of SR is that light (in a vacuum) travels at c in all inertial reference frame, regardless of the velocity of the source. What this means is that Carl must measure the signal spent by Bob as moving at c relative to himself. So, according to him Alice is rushing to meet Bob's signal. and the they are closing in on each other at 1.5c.
For David, Bob and Alice are also moving at 0.5c, but with Bob chasing after Alice. He must also measure the signal as traveling at c relative to himself and thus Alice is running away from the signal, so that the closing speed between them is only 0.5c.
The upshot is that for Carl, less time passes between the signal leaving Bob and arriving at Alice than does according to David. Both will agree on the distance between Bob and Alice, and how much time passes between Bob emitting the signal and his setting his local clock to 0.
George Plousos said:
From what you say I understand that it is difficult to further improve the synchronization of Bob and Alice's watches. I wonder if this can be corrected by placing Bob and Alice in the middle of the distance that separates the two planets. Then they would synchronize their clocks and then return to their planets at the same speeds.
Despite these shortcomings, I think the experiment described in the original question is feasible and there would be some difference in the photographed watches. If it is necessary for Alex to return to Earth, he will have to use the same method by which he traveled to Alice to rule out acceleration from the experiment. In this case, the final question will only include the photographed watches of Bob and Alex.
I do not know if there is any range of error in the accuracy of the results determined by the parameters of the experiment, so I chose to leave open the choice of speed of Alex.
It's not a matter of lack of accuracy. It is a matter of not all inertial frames agreeing that t Bob's and Alice's clocks were ever synchronized to each other.
Imagine two other observers who, before Alice and Bob tried to sync their clocks, were already in motion with respect to Bob and Alice. Carl is moving in the Bob to Alice direction, and David in the Alice to Bob direction. Let's say that they both have a speed of 0.5c relative to Bob and Alice.
Bob sends his signal.
From Carl's frame, Both Bob and Alice are moving at 0.5c relative to him, with Alice "chasing after" Bob.
One of the key ideas of SR is that light (in a vacuum) travels at c in all inertial reference frame, regardless of the velocity of the source. What this means is that Carl must measure the signal spent by Bob as moving at c relative to himself. So, according to him Alice is rushing to meet Bob's signal. and the they are closing in on each other at 1.5c.
For David, Bob and Alice are also moving at 0.5c, but with Bob chasing after Alice. He must also measure the signal as traveling at c relative to himself and thus Alice is running away from the signal, so that the closing speed between them is only 0.5c.
The upshot is that for Carl, much less time passes between the signal leaving Bob and arriving at Alice than does according to David*. Both however will agree on the distance between Bob and Alice, and how much time passes between Bob emitting the signal and his setting his local clock to 0.
So according to both, Bob will not reset his clock to zero at the same moment that the signal reaches Alice and she set her clock to zero, despite the fact that according to both Bob and Alice these events are simultaneous.
This is the gist of the Relativity of Simultaneity; frames of reference in relative motion with respect to each other will not agree on the simultaneity of spatially separated events.
So, let's consider Alex. We'll assume that he, after accelerating will pass Bob moving at 0.5c (so now he is at rest in the same inertial frame as Carl.)
According to both Bob and Alice, Alex passes Bob when both of their clocks read some time T, and he will arrive at Alice when both clocks read T+2 yrs. Alex's clock, having undergone time dilation will have advanced 1.732 years (If we assume that Alex matched his clock to Bob as he passed, then his clock will read T+ 1,732 yrs when he meets up with Alice). Thus according to them( Bob and Alice), less time passed Alex during the trip than did for either of them.
Now let's look at the same events according to Carl.
He and Alex are at rest with respect to each other, thus their clocks tick at the same rate. Bob's and Alice's clocks are moving at 0.5c, and their clocks are time dilated at a rate of 0.866. The distance between Alice and Bob is also length contracted to 0.866 ly. In addition, as covered above, Bob's and Alice's clocks are not in sync. But will be offset from each other by 0.5 yr with Alice's clock reading later. (If Alex passed Bob when Bob's clock reads T, Alice's clock will already be reading T+0.5y).
At a relative speed of 0.5c it will take 1.732 yrs from the moment Bob and Alex pass and Alex and Alice meet. So this is how much time Carl will measuring passing for Alex.
Both Bob's and Alice's will be seen as time dilated, so Carl will measure 1.732 x 0.866 = 1.5 years passing for them. Since Alice's clock already read T+0.5 years when Alex was next to Bob, Alice's clock will read T+2 yrs when she and Alex meet up. ( Thus according to Carl, Bob's clock reads T+1.5 yrs When Alex meets up with Alice.)
So Bob, Alice and Carl will all agree that Bob's and Alex's clocks both read T when they passed each other, and that Alex's clock read T when passing Bob, and T+1.732 yrs while when meeting Alice' s clock, and that Alice's clock reads T+2 years when Alex and she meet up. However they will not agree as which clocks ticked faster over the interval between Alex and Bob passing and Alex and Alice meeting, with Bob and Alice saying Alex's clock advanced by 1.732 yr for their 2, and Carl saying that Bob's and Alice's clock advanced only 1.5 years for Alex's 1.732 yr.
This is why a "round trip" is generally used. If Alex goes from Bob to Alice and back to Bob, then we are comparing Just Bob's and Alex's Clock while they are side by side, and everyone, (including Carl*) will agree that Alex will have aged less when they meet up again.
* In this case, while Carl says that Bob ages less during the "Bob to Alice" leg, He we also say that Alex's clock runs much slower than Bob's clock during the "Alice to Bob" leg( during this leg, while Bob's clock runs 0.866 the rate of Carl according to Carl, Alex's clock would run 1/7 as fast as Carl's).