A vessel filled with two liquid how to determine boant force?

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The discussion revolves around determining the buoyant force acting on a sphere floating in a vessel containing two liquids: oil and mercury. The sphere is described as having half of its volume immersed in each liquid, prompting questions about the application of Archimedes' principle and the calculation of the sphere's density.

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  • Participants explore the implications of Archimedes' principle, questioning how to calculate the volume and weight of the liquid displaced by the sphere. There is also discussion about the effects of the different densities of the liquids on the buoyant force.

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Participants are actively engaging with the concepts of buoyancy and pressure differences in fluids. Some have provided insights into Pascal's law and its relevance to the buoyant force, while others express uncertainty about their understanding and the correctness of their methods.

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There is a mention of the original poster having attempted the problem prior to posting, indicating a need for clarification on their approach. The discussion includes considerations of the effects of the two different liquids on buoyancy, which may influence the interpretation of Archimedes' principle.

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A vessel filled with two liquid how to determine boyant force?

A vessel contains oil of density(800kgm-3) over mercury (density 13600kgm-3) A homogeneous Sphere is floats with half of its volume immersed in mercury and other half in oil. What is density of the material of the sphere?

How to apply Archimedes principle of floating? can you please help.
 
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What does Archimedes' Principle say? ehild
 
ehild said:
What does Archimedes' Principle say?


ehild

It says that buoyant force is equal to weight of liquid displaced.
 
There are two kinds of liquid displaced. What is the volume and the weight of each when the volume of the sphere is V?

ehild
 
ehild said:
There are two kinds of liquid displaced. What is the volume and the weight of each when the volume of the sphere is V?

ehild

But lighter liquid seems to push the sphere downward rather than pushing it upward. and lower liquid seems to push with greater power.
even after this. can i apply that principle?
 
You get upward force at the bottom of the immersed volume, and an upward force at the top.
Pascal's law states that the force a liquid exerts on a surface is normal to the surface and F=PA.
As the pressure is greater at the bottom of the immersed object then at the top, the liquid pushes the bottom surface upward by a greater force than it pushes the top surface downward. The resultant force is always upward. ehild
 
ehild said:
You get upward force at the bottom of the immersed volume, and an upward force at the top.
Pascal's law states that the force a liquid exerts on a surface is normal to the surface and F=PA.
As the pressure is greater at the bottom of the immersed object then at the top, the liquid pushes the bottom surface upward by a greater force than it pushes the top surface downward. The resultant force is always upward.


ehild

thnank's sir(are u male) for helping me,
 
Can you proceed from here?

ehild
 
ehild said:
Can you proceed from here?

ehild

Actually i have already(before posting) done this question by this method. But I did not understand that is it correct or not. that's why i post it here.
 
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Do you understand it now?

Take a block instead of the sphere. The area of the top and bottom sides is A. The pressure at depth d in the oil is
Ptoilgd +P0, so the downward force on the top surface of the block is Ft= A(gρoilgd +P0).

At the bottom of the block, the pressure is that of a column of oil of height d+h/2 and a column of mercury of height h/2. Pboilg(d+h/2)+ ρHgg(h/2)+P0, so the force Fb =A(ρoilg(d+h/2)+ ρHgg(h/2)+P0)
The resultant is the buoyant force: BF=Ag( ρoil(d+h/2)+ ρHg(h/2)-ρoild)=Ag(ρoil(h/2)+ ρHg(h/2))=g(V/2)(ρoil+ ρHg).

ehild
 

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