Is the Sine Rule Valid for Non-Triangular Vector Configurations?

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The discussion centers on the validity of the Sine Rule in non-triangular vector configurations, specifically when vectors a, b, and c have magnitudes of 1, 2, and 3, respectively, and satisfy the equation a + b + c = 0. The conclusion drawn is that the Sine Rule is only applicable when vectors form a triangle, as demonstrated by the incorrect calculation of angles x, y, and z without considering the sine of the angles. The analysis reveals that x equals sixty degrees, which contradicts the expected outcome.

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If magnitudes of vector a,b and c are 1,2,3 respectively and vectors a+b+c=0 then it is obvious that a and b will be in the opposite direction to c therefore cancelling it out but let's assume for a moment that we don't know this and we want to figure this out using the sine rule- then x/3 = y/2 = z/1 where z is the angle between b and c (opposite to a), x is the angle between a and b; and so on, also x+y+z=2pi from the figure (like three forces in equilibrium)-solving gives x equal to sixty degrees which is incorrect.
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Is the sine rule obeyed only when the vectors form a triangle then?

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Krushnaraj Pandya said:
then x/3 = y/2 = z/1
You forgot to take the sine of the angles.
 
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oh god, this is what happens when I study math all day. Thank you very much for your patience and help
 
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