Law of sines.... I don't get it

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The discussion revolves around a triangle defined by specific side lengths and an angle, with the goal of finding the remaining angles using the law of sines. Participants explore the implications of the given dimensions and the validity of the triangle configuration.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the law of sines to find angles β and γ but encounters conflicting results from different approaches. Some participants question the feasibility of the triangle based on the provided dimensions, suggesting the use of the law of cosines instead.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, examining the implications of the triangle's dimensions and the application of trigonometric laws. There is a recognition of potential errors in the initial assumptions about the triangle's configuration, with some guidance offered regarding the relationship between the sides and angles.

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There is a noted discrepancy in the measurements of side a, with participants suggesting that the values provided may not yield a valid triangle. The discussion reflects on the constraints imposed by the triangle's geometry based on the specified sides and angles.

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Homework Statement



Given is a triangle with sides a=3.1cm, b=5cm, c=4.7cm and opposite angle to side a, α=36°. I must find out for angles β and γ using the law of sines.

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Law of sines.

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I first tried:
sin(γ)}/c=sin(α)/a ⇒ γ≈63.02°
β=180-α-γ=80.98°

However, one could also calculate:
sin(β)}/b=sin(α)/a ⇒ β≈71.45°
γ=180°-α-β=72.55°

Two approaches, that I believed to be equivalent, but which furnish different results. So, I obviously make something wrong. But ... I don't get it... what is it?
 
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I think you have applied the law of sines correctly. The problem is that the triangle you have given is impossible. Try applying the law of cosines to the values you have given.
 
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I draw the triangle on a piece of paper. What is wrong with this drawing?
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Try measuring side a. If you look at it, side is is more like 3.0-3.1, not 3.7. This is also what the law of cosines would tell you.

Edit: I see now that I misread your 3.1 as a 3.7. If you accept your values of 36 degrees, 5.0 and 4.7, then a must be 3.011. If you use this value, it all works out.
 
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Note that once you have specified b, c, and alpha, this fixes the shape of the triangle. The other side and the other two angles are then determined. You can't make them whatever you want.
 
Ahhh... now I see that.:mad: Of course, I first draw the triangle, then took the measures of all three sides and checked... but obviously that couldn't work that way. Thanks so much!:smile:
 

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