*aa3.2 Let Q be the group of rational numbers under addition

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The discussion focuses on the groups of rational numbers under addition (denoted as Q) and nonzero rational numbers under multiplication (denoted as Q*). The subgroup generated by the element 1/2 in Q is identified as all rational numbers of the form n/2, where n is an integer. In Q*, the subgroup generated by 1/2 consists of elements of the form 2^n, where n is an integer. Additionally, the concept of the order of an element is clarified, emphasizing the number of operations required to reach the identity element in each group.

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Let Q be the group of rational numbers under addition
and let $Q^∗$ be the group of
nonzero rational numbers under multiplication.
In $Q$, list the elements in $\langle\frac{1}{2} \rangle$,
In ${Q^∗}$ list elements in $\langle\frac{1}{2}\rangle $

ok just had time to post and clueless
 
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Hi karush,

Can you provide some attempt, or at least some initial thoughts please?
 
I like Serena said:
Hi karush,

Can you provide some attempt, or at least some initial thoughts please?
In Q,
$\langle\frac{1}{2}\rangle
=\left\{\cdots,-2,-\frac{3}{2},-1,-\frac{1}{2},
0,\frac{1}{2},1,\frac{3}{2},2\cdots\right\}
=\left\{\frac{n}{2}\vert n \in \Bbb{Z}\right\}$
 
karush said:
In Q,
$\langle\frac{1}{2}\rangle
=\left\{\cdots,-2,-\frac{3}{2},-1,-\frac{1}{2},
0,\frac{1}{2},1,\frac{3}{2},2\cdots\right\}
=\left\{\frac{n}{2}\vert n \in \Bbb{Z}\right\}$

Yep. That is correct. (Nod)

How did you find it?
Can you also find $\langle\frac{1}{2}\rangle$ in $\mathbb Q^*$?
 
I like Serena said:
Yep. That is correct. (Nod)

How did you find it?
Can you also find $\langle\frac{1}{2}\rangle$ in $\mathbb Q^*$?
In $Q*$
$\langle\frac{1}{2}\rangle
=\left\{\cdots, 4,2,1,\frac{1}{2},\frac{1}{4}, \cdots\right\}
=\left\{2^n\vert n \in \Bbb{Z}\right\}$
sorta!

$Q$ and $Q^\ast$ as above.
Find the order of each element in $Q$ and $Q^\ast$

ok is this like $4=2^2$
 
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karush said:
In $Q*$
$\langle\frac{1}{2}\rangle
=\left\{\cdots, 4,2,1,\frac{1}{2},\frac{1}{4}, \cdots\right\}
=\left\{2^n\vert n \in \Bbb{Z}\right\}$
sorta!

$Q$ and $Q^\ast$ as above.
Find the order of each element in $Q$ and $Q^\ast$

ok is this like $4=2^2$

Nope.
The order of an element is the number of times we have to add (respectively multiply) it before we get the identity element.
So in $\mathbb Q$, how many times do we have to add $\frac 12$ before we get $0$?
And how many times do we have to add $0$ before we get $0$?
 

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