Abs Values in Electric Potential & Potential Difference?

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The discussion centers on the notation and interpretation of electric potential (V) and potential difference (ΔV), particularly regarding the use of absolute values. It is established that while ΔV can be treated as either signed or unsigned in the context of capacitance (C = Q/ΔV), using absolute values (C = |Q|/|ΔV|) is equally valid. The equations discussed include ΔV = -∫ab E·dl, C = Q/ΔV, and UC = 1/2 QΔV = 1/2 CΔV², with the conclusion that the absolute value of ΔV does not affect the energy formula since it is squared.

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I'm a little bothered with the inconsistency in notation of electric potential (V) and potential difference (ΔV) because they're apparently used synonymously... but what really confuses me more is that I've seen absolute value around ΔV sometimes. It may not matter (theoretically or mathematically) but I'd appreciate if somebody could clear it up for me!

For the following three equations, does it matter if the absolute value of ΔV is taken? Also, why?
\Delta V=-\int_{a}^{b}\vec{E}\cdot \mathrm{d}\vec{l}

C=\frac{Q}{\Delta V}

U_{C}=\frac{1}{2}Q\Delta V=\frac{1}{2}C\Delta V^{2}

For the latter two, I thought that ΔV would have to be positive even without the absolute value since it deals with capacitance... I don't think negative capacitance is possible? But for the first one, it doesn't seem to make sense to take the absolute value of ΔV since the negative of the integral of the field is taken.
 
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ΔV or V ?
In all cases you've quoted, ΔV is a more logically correct choice than V, because where you take the zero of potential is irrelevant. But in the last two cases, as in much work with electric circuits, people tend to use just V. Apart from avoiding clumsiness, this frees up ΔV to use in a different sense, for example in the contexts of p.d.changing with time.

ΔV or |ΔV| ?
rcgldr has, I think, hit the nail on the head for C = Q/ΔV (or C = Q/V !). You may use the signed value of \DeltaV, as long as you mean by\DeltaV the change in potential going from the plate A to plate B, and by Q you mean the charge on plate B, for an arbitrary choice of which plate you're calling 'A' and which, 'B'. But C = |Q|/|\DeltaV| would be equally good.

For your energy formula, it clearly doesn't matter whether you regard \DeltaV as signed or not, since you're squaring it.
 

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