Absolute value of complex exponential equals 1

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around demonstrating that the absolute value of the complex exponential |e^it| equals 1, where i is the imaginary unit. Participants explore various approaches to understanding and calculating the absolute value of complex numbers, particularly in the context of Euler's formula and trigonometric identities.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant attempts to show |e^it|=1 by expanding it to |cos(t)+isin(t)| and applying the definition of absolute value, but encounters difficulties with √(cos(2t)+sin(2t).
  • Another participant questions the method of squaring cos(t)+isin(t) and emphasizes that the magnitude of a complex number is found by taking the square root of the sum of the squares of its real and imaginary parts.
  • A different participant clarifies that the absolute value of a complex number is not simply the square root of the square unless there is no imaginary part, reinforcing the definition of absolute value in the complex plane.
  • One participant points out that the expression |cos(t) + i sin(t)| is incorrectly equated to √(cos(2t) + sin(2t), noting that the argument can be negative.
  • Another participant provides the formula |z|=√(zz*) to calculate the absolute value, suggesting that this approach will yield the desired result.
  • One participant suggests using the coordinates of cos(t) and sin(t) in the plane and applying a basic identity involving the squares of sine and cosine.
  • A later reply mentions that e^(it) is in polar form with r = 1, and demonstrates the calculation of |e^(it)| using both rectangular and polar forms, concluding that it equals 1.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the correct method to calculate the absolute value of the complex exponential. There is no consensus on a single approach, and multiple methods are discussed without resolution.

Contextual Notes

Some participants' claims depend on specific interpretations of absolute value and the properties of complex numbers, which may not be universally agreed upon. The discussion includes various mathematical steps that remain unresolved or are challenged by others.

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Hello all,

I'm having trouble showing that |e^it|=1, where i is the imaginary unit. I expanded this to |cos(t)+isin(t)| and then used the definition of the absolute value to square the inside and take the square root, but I keep getting stuck with √(cos(2t)+sin(2t)). Does anyone have any suggestions for how to show this equals 1?
 
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Why would you square cos(t)+isin(t)? To find the magnitude of a complex number you square the real and imaginary parts separately and take the square root of their sum (or alternatively, take the square root of the complex number multiplied by its conjugate). Absolute value is defined this way so that it still means the 'distance' from the origin.

Edit: Oh, I see your mistake. A definition of absolute value for real numbers is |x|= \sqrt{x^2}. This is no longer true for complex numbers. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_number#Absolute_value_and_argument
 
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Make sure you are applying absolute value correctly. The absolute value of a complex number is not equivalent to the square root of the square unless the number has no imaginary part. It is generalized to adhere to being the positive distance of the complex number from the origin in the complex plane.
 
GridironCPJ said:
Hello all,

I'm having trouble showing that |e^it|=1, where i is the imaginary unit. I expanded this to |cos(t)+isin(t)| and then used the definition of the absolute value to square the inside and take the square root, but I keep getting stuck with √(cos(2t)+sin(2t)). Does anyone have any suggestions for how to show this equals 1?

so you got this right:

e^{i t} = \cos(t) + i \sin(t)

but this is not:

|\cos(t) + i \sin(t)| = \sqrt{ \cos(2 t) + \sin(2 t) }

the quantity inside the square root is not always non-negative. in the domain of real numbers, how do you deal with the square root when the argument is negative?
 
|z|= \sqrt{zz^*}
where * indicates the complex conjugate. In particular
|cos(t)+ i sin(t)|= \sqrt{(cos(t)+ i sin(t))(cos(t)- i sin(t))}
That should give what you want.
 
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Yet another way: in coordinates, cost+isint corresponds to the point (cost,sint) in the plane, and then apply a basic identity using squares of sine and cosine.
 
e^(it) is in polar form already with r = 1

If you want to put it in rectangular form

e^{it} = cost + isint = a + ib

then

|e^{it}| = \sqrt{a^2 + b^2} = \sqrt{cos^2t + sin^2t} = \sqrt{1} = 1

or consider...

|e^{it}| = e^{it} \cdot e^{-it} = e^0 = 1
 
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