Abstract Alg- Group theory and isomorphic sets.

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The discussion revolves around determining if certain groups are isomorphic, specifically examining the groups [5Z, +], [12Z, +], [Z6, +6], [S6, ∘], [Z2, +2], and [S2, ∘]. The original poster is tasked with defining isomorphic functions if applicable and exploring the properties of these groups.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster expresses confidence in the isomorphism of the first group pair and proposes a function, while questioning the isomorphism of the second pair based on commutativity. They also express confusion regarding the third pair's potential isomorphism and the nature of the function.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on checking commutativity and the necessity of equal cardinality for bijective correspondence. Clarifications have been made regarding the elements of Z2 and S2, with one participant asserting that the third pair is indeed isomorphic and offering a potential function.

Contextual Notes

The original poster references lecture notes that may contain inaccuracies, leading to confusion about the elements of Z2. The discussion also highlights the importance of cardinality in determining isomorphism.

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Homework Statement



I am suppose to determine if the following list of groups are isomorphic and if they are define an isomorphic function for them.
a. [5[tex]Z[/tex], +],[12[tex]Z[/tex], +] where n[tex]Z[/tex] = {nz | z[tex]\in[/tex][tex]Z[/tex]}

b. [[tex]Z[/tex]6, +6]], [S6, [tex]\circ[/tex]]

c. [[tex]Z[/tex]2, +2]], [S2, [tex]\circ[/tex]]

Homework Equations


+6 means x +6] y = the remainder of (x+y)/6

To prove not isomorphic we are suppose to show that the two sets are not one-to-one, or one is commutative while the other is not, etc.

The Attempt at a Solution


For a, I am fairly certain they are isomorphic and that the function should be f(x) = (12/5)x since it is a bijective function and f(x+y) = f(x) + f(y).

For b, My gut feeling is that it is not isomorphic however I can't find a good reason why. Perhaps because the second group is not commutative. However that answer just doesn't sit well with me.

Finally, for c I am confused because S2 = {(1,2), (2,1)} while [tex]Z[/tex]2 ={0, 1,2} so it seems like there could be an isomorphic function but I'm uncertain what that function could be without it being piecewise for each element 0, 1, and 2.
 
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If you're gut feeling is that one of the groups is not commutative, then try showing it by finding two elements that don't commute with each other.

Also remember that the cardinality of the groups must be the same for a bijective correspondence
 
A is correct.

[tex]Z_2=\left\{0,1\right\}[/tex], not [tex]\left\{0,1,2\right\}[/tex].

[tex]S_2=\left\{id,(1\;2)\right\}[/tex], and it's easy to see C is isomorphic. The function is [tex](0\mapsto id),(1\mapsto (1\;2))[/tex] (this notation is probably not right, though), and one can verify it by enumerating all possibilities.

It's also easy to see that B is not isomorphic, since the cardinality of [tex]S_6[/tex] is 720, while the cardinality of [tex]Z_6[/tex] is 6.
 
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Thank you to both of you for your help.

[tex]Z_2=\left\{0,1\right\}[/tex], not [tex]\left\{0,1,2\right\}[/tex].

Thank you for point that out! I was going from my lecture notes and I had written it down wrong. This makes the problem make a lot more sense.
 

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