Abstract Algebra Question: Maximal Ideals

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around identifying maximal ideals in the rings Z_8, Z_9, Z_10, and Z_15, focusing on the properties and definitions of ideals in abstract algebra.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to demonstrate the number of maximal ideals in Z_8 and Z_9, expressing confusion about the nature of equivalence classes versus ideals. They also consider how to show multiple maximal ideals exist in Z_10 and Z_15.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring definitions and properties of ideals, with some questioning the original poster's understanding of equivalence classes. Guidance is being offered regarding the definitions and properties of maximal ideals, as well as considerations related to the prime factorization of the numbers involved.

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There appears to be some uncertainty regarding the definitions of ideals and equivalence classes, which may affect the original poster's approach to the problem. The discussion includes references to theorems related to maximal and prime ideals.

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Homework Statement



a) Show that there is exactly one maximal ideal in Z_8 and in Z_9.

b) Show that Z_10 and Z_15 have more than one maximal ideal.


Homework Equations



I know a maximal ideal is one that is not contained within any other ideal (except for the ring itself)

By Theorem, we know that In a commutative ring R with identity, every maximal ideal is prime.


The Attempt at a Solution



For a) I was thinking I would just show that all of the classes were subsets of the other classes. i.e. [8/0] is contained in [4] is contained in [2], and [6] is contained in [3] and [2], [9] is contained in [3]. Does that make sense? But I couldn't figure out what to do with [5] and [7]. It seems to me like BOTH of those are maximal ideals, but I'm supposed to prove that there's only one. Also, not quite sure how to formalize this into a proof.

I'm pretty confident on what to do for b). I just have to show that there's more than one, right? And both Z_7 and Z_9 should be ideals in Z_10 and Z_15, aren't they?

Thanks!
 
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Instead of just writing [5], which I'm assuming is the ideal generated 5 in, say Z_8, it might make it clearer if you wrote out the elements contained in the ideal. Like, [4] in Z_8 is {0,4}, right? What's [5]?
 
Dick said:
Instead of just writing [5], which I'm assuming is the ideal generated 5 in, say Z_8, it might make it clearer if you wrote out the elements contained in the ideal. Like, [4] in Z_8 is {0,4}, right? What's [5]?

Oh, dang. Equivalence classes aren't ideals. Wow. Not sure what I was thinking.

All right. So it turns out that I actually have NO idea what I'm doing. Guess it's back to the drawing board.
 
Lauren72 said:
Oh, dang. Equivalence classes aren't ideals. Wow. Not sure what I was thinking.

All right. So it turns out that I actually have NO idea what I'm doing. Guess it's back to the drawing board.

Oh, you meant [5] to be an equivalence class? No, an ideal of Z_8 is a subset of Z_8 that's also subring with another property. Better check the definition.
 
Dick said:
Oh, you meant [5] to be an equivalence class? No, an ideal of Z_8 is a subset of Z_8 that's also subring with another property. Better check the definition.

Yeah. I know the definition of ideal. I've just been doing abstract algebra for the last few hours, and I think my brain may have gone a little soft and mushy.

Thanks for the willingness to help!
 
Lauren72 said:
Yeah. I know the definition of ideal. I've just been doing abstract algebra for the last few hours, and I think my brain may have gone a little soft and mushy.

Thanks for the willingness to help!

Some things to consider:

1) What is the prime factorization of 8? Of 9?

2) What do you know about the order of a subring with respect to its "parent ring"

3) Giving the theorem you stated, what are the eligible orders for a maximal ideal in Z_8? What about Z_9?
 

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