Accelerating rocket w/ changing mass *need to finish tonight*

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The discussion revolves around the dynamics of a rocket with changing mass due to fuel consumption. The original poster seeks to prove a formula for the upward velocity of the rocket, which involves parameters such as initial mass, fuel burn rate, and thrust force, while also exploring the initial conditions and acceleration over time.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of Newton's second law and the implications of mass changing over time. There are questions about how to integrate the resulting equations and whether finding the rate of change of acceleration is a valid starting point.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the application of Newton's second law and the need for integration due to the time-dependent mass. However, there is a lack of consensus on the next steps, with some expressing uncertainty about integration techniques.

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Participants note the urgency of the task, indicating a deadline for completion. There is also mention of varying levels of familiarity with calculus among participants, which may affect the discussion's progression.

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Homework Statement


Prove that the upward velocity of a rocket of initial mass M0, which is propelled by fuel burning at a rate of R kg/s, is given by vy = uex * ln[M0 / M(t) ] - g * t. uex is the speed of the exhaust gas relative to the rocket and M0 is the initial mass (rocket + fuel).

Also find the initial velocity and acceleration and velocity at time = 180s.

M0 = 2.12E6 kg
Fth = 2.32E7 N (Force of thrust)
R = 4.6E3

M(t) = M0 - R * t
Fth = -R * uex

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The Attempt at a Solution


Well it seems like I can get all the required values I need, but I still need to prove the given formula, and I'm not really sure where to start and I'm hoping for some tips.EDIT: Would finding the rate of changing for the rocket's acceleration be a start? (ie x m*s^3)
 
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No one can provide any help? I desperately need some.
 
Proximity said:
EDIT: Would finding the rate of changing for the rocket's acceleration be a start? (ie x m*s^3)
Finding the rocket's acceleration would be a good start.
 
So applying Newton's second law I ended up with:

(Fth / m) - g = a

But m is dependent on time so that becomes:

[Fth / (m0 - R * t)] - g = a

Do I then have to integrate that somehow?
 
Anyone?
 
Proximity said:
So applying Newton's second law I ended up with:

(Fth / m) - g = a

But m is dependent on time so that becomes:

[Fth / (m0 - R * t)] - g = a

Do I then have to integrate that somehow?

How hard is that to integrate?
 
It's been a while since I've taken calculus, I'm not really sure how to.
 

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