Acceleration Comparison: Basketball vs. Tennis Ball

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The discussion revolves around the comparison of the acceleration of a basketball and a tennis ball when dropped, focusing on the effects of weight, air resistance, and gravitational interactions. Participants explore theoretical and practical aspects of acceleration in free fall, including conditions under which air resistance may be significant.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the acceleration of a basketball and a tennis ball differs when dropped, suggesting that weight might play a role.
  • Another participant argues that weight does not affect the acceleration significantly in this context, emphasizing that air resistance is the primary factor influencing the fall rate of the balls.
  • It is noted that if air resistance is neglected, all objects, regardless of mass, would fall at the same rate due to gravity.
  • Some participants discuss terminal velocity, suggesting that while both balls may fall similarly from a short height, differences could become apparent from greater heights due to varying terminal velocities.
  • A participant mentions the gravitational interaction between the Earth and the objects, indicating that this effect is negligible for small objects like basketballs and tennis balls but relevant in other contexts, such as the Moon's fall towards the Earth.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that air resistance plays a significant role in the acceleration of the balls when dropped, but there is no consensus on the extent of its impact compared to gravitational effects. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific conditions under which these factors become significant.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight that the effects of air resistance are often neglected in introductory physics discussions, but this simplification may not hold in all scenarios, particularly when considering different heights or object shapes.

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Different in acceleration?

Hello, I'd like to know what's the different between an acceleration of a basketball and the acceleration of a small ball(tennis ball) when we drop the balls...

I think they will not be the same, but why? is it because of the weight?
 
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No. Unless you are talking about gravity between object of masses relatively close to each other, weight has nothing to do with it. (The mass of a tennis or basketball is nothing compared to the mass of earth).

What is different is air resistance. If one has more air resistance, it will fall slower. Otherwise, for most physics purposes we neglect air resistance and assume everything falls at 9.8 "meters per second" ...per second
 
Yes Air resistance is what causes one to fall faster than the other, however if you dropped let's say a lead musket ball and a cannonball they would fall at the exact same rate for the most part. So in response to your question... they would fall very similar in speed because the terminal velocity(maximum freefall speed of an object through a fluid) of both is very similar... and it also depends on the distance they both fell, if it was from the exosphere one would fall faster eventually because I am sure they don't have the same terminal velocity. But if you are talking about dropping them off a building or something of a similar nature it would not be very noticeable.
And there is a reason that air resistance is neglected especially early on in physics, as some on this thread were so kind as to show me... :wink:
 
Just to be clear, if there was no air, a feather and a bowling ball would fall with the same acceleration and hit the ground at the same time.
 
BigStelly said:
Yes Air resistance is what causes one to fall faster than the other, however if you dropped let's say a lead musket ball and a cannonball they would fall at the exact same rate for the most part. So in response to your question... they would fall very similar in speed because the terminal velocity(maximum freefall speed of an object through a fluid) of both is very similar... and it also depends on the distance they both fell, if it was from the exosphere one would fall faster eventually because I am sure they don't have the same terminal velocity. But if you are talking about dropping them off a building or something of a similar nature it would not be very noticeable.
And there is a reason that air resistance is neglected especially early on in physics, as some on this thread were so kind as to show me... :wink:
What thread? I want to know why air resistance is neglected early on :)
 
This is neglecting the fact that the Earth falls towards the object slightly also, but it is negligible on this scale, but on the case of comparing the moon being dropped to the Earth and a basketball being dropped on the earth, the moon will collide faster, due to this attraction of Earth to the moon.
 

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