Acceleration given distance from earth (r)

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The discussion revolves around calculating the acceleration due to gravity for a satellite in a circular orbit at a specified distance from the Earth's surface. The subject area includes gravitational physics and orbital mechanics.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the use of gravitational equations, questioning the application of the formula without the mass of the satellite. There is discussion about the proper notation for acceleration in orbit and the implications of using different gravitational formulas.

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Some participants have provided guidance on using Newton's law of gravitation and have confirmed the calculations presented. There is an acknowledgment of potential confusion regarding the online system's feedback on the answer, indicating that the discussion is ongoing.

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Participants note the absence of the satellite's mass in the calculations and express uncertainty about the implications of this on the results. There is also mention of the gravitational constant and its role in the calculations.

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Question: Satellites are placed in a circular orbit that is 3.59 X 107 m above the surface of the earth. What is the magnitude of the acceleration due to gravity at this distance?

So far I've been using g=(M/r2) and get .31m/s2. There must be something wrong with either using this equation or that g isn't the acceleration. Can you explain how to reach acceleration from this question?
 
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In the equation you posted, you're missing the gravitational constant "G." However, I suspect you used it in your calculation because I got the same answer when I included G. You seem to be assuming that your answer of .31 m/s2 is wrong, but it seems fine to me.

I wouldn't use small g to denote the acceleration in orbit though. Small g usually refers to the acceleration due to gravity on Earth's surface. Instead, you could call it "a" for acceleration.
 
Normally I'd use the traditional gravitational formula, but since I don't have a mass for the second object (satellite) I'm not sure if I can use it. F=(GM1M2)/r2. Since F=ma, I wonder if once I solve the equation I should divide it by the mass of Earth again to isolate a, that would lead to a very small number though and I don't think that would be accurate, any suggestions about doing it that way?
 
Pajarito said:
Normally I'd use the traditional gravitational formula, but since I don't have a mass for the second object (satellite) I'm not sure if I can use it. F=(GM1M2)/r2. Since F=ma, I wonder if once I solve the equation I should divide it by the mass of Earth again to isolate a, that would lead to a very small number though and I don't think that would be accurate, any suggestions about doing it that way?

Sure, you can use Newton's law of gravitation no problem. That's what the equation you used is derived from. Here's how:

[itex]\displaystyle F=G\frac{mM_E}{r^2}[/itex]

[itex]\displaystyle a=F/m[/itex]

Substitute F:

[itex]\displaystyle a=G\frac{mM_E}{r^2}/m[/itex]

and m cancels to give:

[itex]\displaystyle a=G\frac{M_E}{r^2}[/itex]

Then, plugging in the radius given by the problem, and putting in the numerical values for G and ME (mass of earth):

[itex]\displaystyle a=(6.673×10^{-11})\frac{5.972×10^{24} kg}{(3.59×10^7 m)^2} = 0.31\frac{m}{s^2}[/itex]

Are you convinced that you got the right answer yet? :)
 
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I'm convinced but it's this online system that won't mark the answer as correct, I'll check with my professor. Thanks for you help.
 

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